What's fair?

[Aruzdail]

I know prices differ on servers, but there is only one guild on my server in the elemental planes just to give you an idea of where we are.

I made my first Ceramic Rod of Storms and I've never seen one for sale so I don't know what's fair. I'm broke and really need to recap some of my pottery losses on this sale.

the PoP extended range item was going for about 38Kish. Where would this item rank?

Racmoor

[Raiyaeq]

Start with high and if no one buys after couple of days go down slowly. Personally I wouldn't sell it for less than 40k.

[Nulland]

There's been one Ceramic Rod of Storms for sale on Quel for a few weeks now at 22k. I've done two combines of the CRoS myself, and I must say the particle effect is outstanding.. a very pleasant surprise after I did my first combine.

I have yet to see another person with one, but then again, my head is usually stuck in merchant inventory lists. I kinda feel that most people don't even know what it is or looks like, which is why the demand seems so small.

I'd say start high like Raiyaeq suggests. You could also wait until you can make a second one, and then equip one while in trader mode in a visible area.

[Garulf]

The main problem with CRoS is it's very much a niche item, no one but a high level wizard is really going to be even vaguely interested in it. The focus effect ONLY works on cold-based DD spells, and wizards are pretty much the only class that nukes with cold spells very often.

(Yes, I know shamans have a bunch of cold based nukes, and other classes have them too, my point is those nukes just don't get used enough to justify the expense of a CRoS (or the taking up of a slot that would be better used for a mana pres, improved damage or spell haste item)).

So, if you want to sell it anytime soon, you have to pimp it directly to high level wizzies. And since there aren't any on the market, you are going to have to advertise (with details, not just /auc WTS <link> 20k!)

[Jaradis Stormcaller]

There is no level restriction on it. It makes a wonderful twink item for froggie wizards for those of us with plenty of extra cash to spend. Of course I made mine, but I woulda bought one.

[Quesci]

There is no level restriction on it. It makes a wonderful twink item for froggie wizards for those of us with plenty of extra cash to spend. Of course I made mine, but I woulda bought one.

Below level 60 there are many improved damage items that will suit a twink wizard much better. CRoS is only a {edit}23% bonus{/edit} and only to cold spells. Also, while wizards have access to cold, fire, and magic spells for most of their lives, it isn't until the 50s that they all become even. There will be many times in your life that a fire spell is better than a focused cold.

On the other hand, it is nice to use things that you make for yourself, and you should be proud of that. Congrats!

Edit: Fixed a mistake with a number. I don't know why I thought the bonus was only 15%.

[Unmei]

Actually, the Ceramic Rod of Storms Effect is an up to 23% bonus to cold damage spells, whereas ordinary "Improved Damage: Blah" effects are only up to 20%. Not a huge difference, but the Rod of Storms is, in fact, superior to Improved Damage for cold spells, and not inferior as you seem to be implying.

[Garulf]

It *IS* inferior though, since it doesn't apply to non-cold spells, or DOTs, or Rains, or AE spells (I'm pretty sure), ONLY to single target DD cold-save spells. So you need an improved Damage item anyway to cover your other spells types. The question THEN becomes, is it worth taking up an extra slot, for JUST an extra 3% damage on ONLY cold spells.

Now, if you DON'T have an Imp. Damage item for your level, and you have some cold based DDs (wizzies, shamans, druids (rangers now), mages), then it would be worth it, but is it worth it to the tune of 20+K?

Wizzies get the really nasty cold DD spells (shaman nukes are pretty weak for their level), so they are the natural market for these items. Not having played a wizzie, I can't comment on how difficult it is to get Imp. Dam. items for them.

[Suva]

I've only managed to sell 2 of these. I've only seen 1 other person have them for sale on my server. Many people have expressed interest, but I was not going to sell for what they offered. I had them on my trader for 30k, highest anyone sent a tell asking if I would make a deal was for 3k.

[Unmei]

Well:

A) Improved Damage doesn't work on DoTs, Rains, or AoEs or whatnot either, so saying the effect on the Rod of Storms is inferior because it doesn't affect those spells is incorrect.

B) While it's a fine and easy thing for a twink to get an improved damage 1 or improved damage 2 item, Improved Damage 3 and 4 are impressively rare, and the 20-30k one might pay for a rod of storms starts to look downright affordable.

The target audience for this item is really: Shamans who want a damage boost, Wizards between level 49 (Ice Comet) and 62 (They get Iceflame of E'ci at 63, which may or may not stack with this) and druids from leve 57 upwards (Frost at 57 with the rod is about as good as Wildfire at 59, and Moonfire at 60 with rod is as good as Summer's Flame at 64. And, well, if they manage to get Winter's Frost at 65 without having a better focus item...)

They're still somewhat specialized, but I think you could move a few at a good price with an active sales pitch.

[Veldin Darkfire]

FYI mages do not get cold nukes.

Veldin

[Gryfalia]

Sold the one I had for 40K, I think in a matter of 2 days.

Gryfalia

[Thordon]

I started pottery specifically for the rod

Im a level 60 druid and to me it is an awesome item, when I nuke I use Moonfire (ice-based), it is the best nuke I have, at 61, I get a 2550 dmg ice-based rain, and at 65 I get a 1550 damage ice-based nuke, compared to a White Dragonscale Cloak (55k on my server) which has ID3, only gives a 20% bonus, and only to spells pre-60, the rod is FAR more valuable to me.

It is the most realistic way to get an item of this power without being in a pretty powerful guild.

[Unmei]

For the record, the rod of storms does NOT work on AoE spells like rains, but then, AFAIK, there are no items in the game that do.

[Reflan]

When I see them on my server, they're around 30k.

I have a 61 shaman, who wouldn't buy it unless he was rich, but as horrible as shaman nukes are, anything that boosts them is better than their not getting boosted. Shamans don't often nuke, but nukes are far less aggro than DOTs are. My shaman has raintraveller's overcloak with its Fury of Eci(up to 23% cold DD improvement), and even with only one level of spell casting fury, has critted for a bit over 1k on ummm ice strike I think the spell was -- the 650 damage one. Nice improvement!

Which is just to say, being that the rod is basically an item for rich people, who knows, even a shaman might appreciate one, though he's your last possible market by a long ways. I guess this is also just to say that the 23% improvement can mean a lot.

In my trials group, we almost failed, but I got the kill shot with a cold nuke, and that was before I had the overcloak, and when a couple of us were dead. Every little bit, to every ability, matters! And 23% is quite a little bit.