ding 300 but trophy at 88%

[euridice]

good news is that I dinged 300 without burning all my bank account
strange thing is that my expert trophy (made it at 224) is still at 88%...
how come ?

[Shortmid]

You outlevel it, now it'll level 11% faster til it catches up.

[Grolyn]

Just do 2 combines that trivals 301 or higher.

[euridice]

i did 14 combines trivial 302 (spherical bottle) and it stood at 88%.
after that I wanted to sleep

[Zolina]

One stack of star ruby steins should upgrade the trophy to +12%.

[Aldier]

i did 14 combines trivial 302 (spherical bottle) and it stood at 88%.
after that I wanted to sleep

Sounds like you forgot to equip it or had it disabled in your evolving items tab of the inventory.

[Gorse]

good news is that I dinged 300 without burning all my bank account
strange thing is that my expert trophy (made it at 224) is still at 88%...
how come ?

Because the trophy does not evolve when you skill up, it evolves as you (successfully) combine non-trivial items within 100 skill points of your raw skill (or if skill is 300 any combine above 300).

The trophy (for this tradeskill) must be equiped in Pimary, Secondary, Range or Ammo slots (ammo slot will give modification and will evolve, but provides no stats) while you do the combines.

Your trophy must be set to evolve (default is on).

If you have an item window open showing the stats of the item, it will not update, you have to open a new one.

There are sometimes problems doing combines in an instanced zone (specifically the guild hall).

If none of these are applicable then it is probably time to submit a bug report.



Gorse

[tomojo]

i did 14 combines trivial 302 (spherical bottle) and it stood at 88%.
after that I wanted to sleep

Is this due to the fact that you are doing combines that trivial at only 2 points over you base skill level?

Would it be faster (and I believe it would) if you were attempting combines in the higher trivial ranges (320-350)?

I know that it was stated that the amount the trophy evolved was affected by how close your base level was to the trivial of the combine, which would explain why your trophy hadnt evolved to the next level by the time you reached 300. I also believe that this is why your evolving is slow even after hitting 300.

I know that I've always evolved the trophy before hiting the skill associated with that trophy, but when heading to 200 in baking , the combines trivialed at 222 (lemon-buttered crab pie) ,not 202(storm salmon fillet); when I was heading to 300 in brewing, the trivials of the combines were 335 (KCs), not 303 (glacier mountain tonic). I believe that if I had done the lower level combines, I would be waiting for the trophies to catch up.

[Gaell Stormracer]

I'm fairly sure that Ngreth posted a description that says the XP the trophy gains is related to the actual trivial of the combine (capped at 350) rather than to the difference between your skill and the trivial (but of course you can only gain XP from a combine whose trivial is greater than your skill). So, a 302 triv combine should still give 90% of the XP of the 335 combine.

[Ngreth Thergn]

the trophy sometimes lags behind, sometimes it gets ahead.

it gains exp = trivial on a SUCCESSFULL combine.

so if you failed alot, but were lucky on skillups, it would lag behind.

if you succeded alot, but were UNLUCKY on skillups, it would get ahead of you.

If the trophy gets too far ahead of you (it levels up before you pass the divisible by 50 skill level) it will stop gaining exp

If YOU get ahead of the trophy (you pass a divisible by 50 skill before it skills up) then it will gain exp faster (10X the amount of ranks you are ahead + 1x more... so 11X if one rank ahead, 21X if 2... etc...)

The trivial of the combine also may not be greater than 100 over your BASE (not modified) skill.

And the combine may not be trivial to your BASE skill.

[tomojo]

the trophy sometimes lags behind, sometimes it gets ahead.

it gains exp = trivial on a SUCCESSFULL combine.

so if you failed alot, but were lucky on skillups, it would lag behind.

if you succeded alot, but were UNLUCKY on skillups, it would lag behind.

So the trivial at 344 combines that succeeds will evolve the trophy faster than combines that trivials at 302 by around 13%-14%

And, shouldn't the UNLUCKY statement say 'it would get ahead'.

[Ngreth Thergn]

So the trivial at 344 combines that succeeds will evolve the trophy faster than combines that trivials at 302 by around 13%-14%

And, shouldn't the UNLUCKY statement say 'it would get ahead'.

yup.

and yup. so eding my post above (meaining you correction may look a bit odd... but I want the statement to be correct)

[euridice]

thanks for the explanation, I dinged master trophy after 17 attempt (don't remember if they were all successful but I think only 16 were) of a 302 trivial item