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  • Skillups goin slow what stats are needed for pottery?

    Skillups are crawling for pottery and gettin expensive what stats do i need for pottery???
    i am a necro so int is high , saw something once about dexterity do i need DEX also????


    Stats:
    STR 98
    STA 85
    AGI 94
    DEX 102
    wis 115
    int 257

    thanks for your help
    currently at 124 and want 199 by today

  • #2
    Wis/Int is the skill up checker for pottery so as long as you keep your int up and do non triv combines they'll come, just slowly
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    Drinal

    250 Baker w/spoon
    200 on all others, save JC only 101

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    • #3
      Before SOE made there "small change" to pottery skill up's I was able to get a point of skill about every 4 or 5 vials (never more than 10) with a 140 wis character. I only made it to 180 before the change. Shortly after the change I tried to raise my skill to 188 on vials. I started with 200 zombie skins and did not get a single point. Pottery skill gains have been brought in line with all other trades. Get your Int as high as posible and keep at it. The skill up's will come!

      Fulmar, 39th Barbarian Shaman
      Brell Serilis
      216 Potter, 200 Brewer, 192 Baker, 186 Jewler, 182 Smith, 182 Fletcher, 158 Tailor, 41 Alchemist
      Aka: Hoekus (Dru 29), Fabutan (Enc 29), Canaada (BL 34)

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      • #4
        Having a Druid, using 255 WIS was no problem for skill-up's..

        But now I have to get my SK Ogre ( ouch ) to skill up, for the thurg potion..

        Is STR also taken into acount ? Or is that only with Smithing ?
        http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=39482

        STR 200
        STA 158
        AGI 80
        DEX 118
        WIS 91
        INT 115
        CHA 47

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        • #5
          The "official" doctrine right now states that WIS OR INT is the primary stat for all tradeskills. Three tradeskills are said to have a secondary stat that MIGHT be of value. By that I mean IF the secondary stat is the highest stat between WIS, INT, and the secondary then the secondary stat is used and NOT WIS or INT. The three officially acknowledged Skills with secondary are Smithing with STR, Fletching with DEX, and Jewelcraft with DEX. However, there is currently debate over whether the DEX with JC is working. The other two are accepted as working.
          Morani
          Wanderer of Tunare,
          Protector of The Mother's children.

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          • #6
            Skill-ups

            I have been working on pottery recently and being a 250 tailor, I can say that skill-ups don't seem to have been brought in line with other tradeskills but have been made even rarer. I averaged a skill-up every 18.8 combines in tailoring between 190 and 250. Right now skill ups on pottery are much less than that. Now it may have been brought in line when comparing cost--since the combines in pottery are cheaper than in tailoring but the sheer number of combines is mind-numbing. Admittedly, pottery was too easy when you could go from 0 to about 130 on 50pp in less than two hours. However, the current state may have been an over-reaction.

            One large trade-skill question that never seems to have answered at any fan faire is whether "hell levels" actually exist or more generally whether the chance of skill-up is constant over the course of a trade-skill or whether there are ranges that are tougher than others. Evidence and people's testimonies indicate that the chance varies or that certain types of combines have a greater chance for a skill-up than others. Maybe we could get an answer to this at the Las Vegas Fan Faire.

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            • #7
              did 100 combines of star ruby encrusted stiens and didn't get a single skill up

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hastorow
                did 100 combines of star ruby encrusted stiens and didn't get a single skill up
                ouch.. That is hard.. :?

                I've seen bad tries, but never harder than 40 / 60 steins for a skill up.. ( and those star rubies don't come cheap.. )

                But that for before the Pottery Nerf..( hehe..)

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                • #9
                  My guild of a year and a half disbanded last week, so the last thing I felt like doing was battling for XP. The silence was far too deafening. So I decided to throw myself into some trade skills. Since I passed 200 in baking I could now work everything else up to 200. I put my trade skill equipment on and got a shot of KEI, brining my wisdom up to 255. I got my last point in brewing without any trouble. But then I needed to go from 194 to 199 in pottery. I stocked up on casserole dish supplies and went to work. OMG, I couldn’t believe how extreme the “fix” had been. I got my first point after 58 combines. My next skill up came 73 combines later. With a sigh of relief my next point came after only 18 combines. But then I had to do 194 combines for my next up and then my final point, 199 skill, came 214 combines later. Both my wrist and my anemic bank account are refusing to speak to me.

                  Granted, maybe I was just suffering from extreme bad luck, but personally I feel this was ridiculous. I’m no stranger to trade skills and I’ve never had a bad run like that with any other skill. I’m going to be making crucibles of escape for my last point. I just hope I don’t have to go through over 200 of them to get it. Though I must admit, it was a good distraction from the loss of my guild.
                  Pait Spiritwalker
                  63rd Season Vah Shir Shaman
                  The Seventh Hammer

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                  • #10
                    OMG, I couldn’t believe how extreme the “fix” had been. I got my first point after 58 combines. My next skill up came 73 combines later. With a sigh of relief my next point came after only 18 combines. But then I had to do 194 combines for my next up and then my final point, 199 skill, came 214 combines later. Both my wrist and my anemic bank account are refusing to speak to me.
                    That’s an average of 111.5 combines per skillup…ouch.

                    Hmmm, I haven’t kept track of how many combines I have done so far since my last skill up, but I’m pretty sure I’m over 100 (star ruby steins & crucibles) since I’ve done at least 5 sessions of a stack per session…gah…”slight” adjustment, they said.
                    Master Artisan Maevenniia the Springy Sprocket Stockpiler of the really long name
                    Silky Moderator Lady
                    Beneath the silk, lies a will of steel.

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                    • #11
                      I just have to add my 2 cp to this.
                      I do agree that the pottery nerf seems to be rather eextreme The difficulty of doing pottery now, seems to rival the difficulty of what tailoring used to be. I do agree that pottery was a bit too easy before the nerf. My little experience is relatively small compared to the others listed here.
                      I was attempting to raise my skill from 111 to 115 making pin tins. From all the other trade skills I've done, going 4 pts should not be difficult when down below about the 150 range. I got that number from doing smithing, fletching, brewing, and some tailoring. I was expecting that with 20 combines I would get the 4 pts I was looking for. I ended up getting zero pts. My Wis during this little run was 170, which is the highest I've had it to date while attempting skill ups. Just the other day I was able to get my brewing from 165 to 168 with a run of 20 combines. I would think a skill of 168 would be more difficult to reach than a skill of 115. And with that my wis was 163.
                      So, in short I think SOE needs to look at the nerf they did to pottery and consider un-nerfing it a bit.
                      Thorken Emeraldmist 60th season Ranger
                      Grandmaster Fletcher 244

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                      • #12
                        adding my 2cp also..

                        skilling up on star ruby steins currently, it took me 20 stacks and 5 loose star rubies over the last 2 months to go from 223 to 224..

                        thats:

                        (20 x 20) + 5 = 405 star rubies, at 68pp each

                        thats approximately 27.5kpp on star rubies alone for one skill point


                        on the bright side, it's only took 27 star rubies to go from 224 to 226 this week


                        i'm a rogue, with an 8 piece int gear tradeskilling suit my int sits at a heady 128.. (153 when i can get a kei)

                        they didnt nerf pottery from my point of view, they killed it, had a cleric rez it back then got a necro in to sac it a few times for good measure

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                        • #13
                          Yes they have made pottery into a nightmare trade skill imo its not just about cost (although there is no way i can now even consider getting to GM in pottery). Who realy wants to spend as i did the other day 6 hours of combines for 3 skill ups ?!!! where is the fun or even sense of acomplishment in that ?

                          Yewanme

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                          • #14
                            they didnt nerf pottery from my point of view, they killed it, had a cleric rez it back then got a necro in to sac it a few times for good measure
                            In total agreement. My 59 shaman was so looking forward to raising his pottery skill to the 230 range so he could make some neat focus items in PoP. After struggling so much in the 160's skill range I have given up and will focus now on smithing with my mage.

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                            • #15
                              I have easily done 200 combines, in different sessions, and not had any skillups in Pottery. Been at 206 forever, and will probably stay there. This is with 255 Wis, and sometimes other stats buffs from my fiancee's 53 shaman (because I'm DESPERATE, lol).

                              In similar news, I also have a 53 ranger who has worked on Fletching... in no time at all and very, very little money, she got to around 140 skill. However, when I did some pottery to try and work up skill for Thurgadin potions... 100 combines took her skill from 0 to 3, the first skillup being on the very first combine. I gave up right away. Pottery's much, much more time-consuming now.

                              Dorla

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