Gorthag's Guide to Pottery

[Sethlic]

Lol I have a copy of the spell.
lol I have had a copy o fthat spell for ow maybe two months.
The one erolsi mar cleric I found didn;t have time so I didn't give em the spell :twisted:

[Niami DenMother]

Gorthag?

Would you mind if I snagged this for the site? If you don't mind, are there any further edits you want to do to it before it goes up?

~Mum the sleepwalking

[Buter]

PoP Alternate if you have good supply of Tainted Planar Essence:
Skill 200-216
Unfired Planar Steins. Cost: about 11 plat per combine
Block of Tanaan clay + tainted planar essence + ceramic lining sketch
+ sculpting tools, combine in PoK pottery wheel

Did 247 combines from 200-216 on these at 263 wisdom with geerlok.

Buter

[Chaid]

>> Unfired Planar Steins. Cost: about 11 plat per combine <<

If you farm your own essence then this holds true. However, if you vendor mine for it, add another 6p to each combine. At that point it's almost equivalent to opal encrusted steins in price. If you're going to go from 200-216 on these, expect to buy around 500 tainted planar essence (an avg of ~30 combines per skill point).

I'm personally a fan of unfired planar steins because (1) you don't have to lacquer gems,(2) you don't have to make CE and (3) you don't have to imbue clay.

[Unmei]

I agree - 16 plat for an unfired planar stein is still a few plat cheaper than an opal encrusted one (16 plat or so, vs around 20) plus you don't have to fail on lacquering gems, increase your carpal tunnel by making essence, or spend too **** long enchanting clay.

It's not like you're not going to do tons of opal steins as it is...

[Thordon]

Just a couple of questions...

Why is Erollsi Marr used for the imbued idols, Im a druid of Tunare and can imbue my own Emeralds, which also produce idols that trivial at 250+, are star rose quartz the cheapest?

And should I level up JC to laquer my own gems? I have to find an enchanter to enchant the clay and summon the vials anyway, would it be better to ask them to do it instead, assuming they do JC (as a lot of enchanters do).

Thanks in advance

Thordon Treeguardian
60 Druid of Tunare (36 AA)
205 Pottery

[Anlashok]

Yes, it's all about the money. A stack of star rose quartz cost me 21pp while a stack of emeralds costs 273pp. What's nice for me is I only need a cleric to imbue the gems. Got my own chanter for mana vials, enchanting clay. and lacquering. Only problem is that it takes forever to make the mana vials. Even with c3 my lowly 34 chanter took several hours to make the clear mana vials.

Could make 7 vials before going oom, sit for 15 mins and start over. Ok, did some quick math and at that rate it's just over 6 hours to make 8 stacks of clear mana vials with my chanter using c3 the whole time. Then there's the 8 stacks of clay to enchanter, /cry.

[Thordon]

Thanks for the info , It would probably be a lot easier just to ask a high level LFG enchanter to do the vials/clay, 6 hours is crazy

[Reflan]

Definitely get JC up to cut costs on lacquering gems. You can lose a lot of money lacquering gems.

JC costs almost nothing to get to about 190, and right around there you can actually make money selling back the combines. From there to 200 can cost a couple K to hit 200. That's as far as I've taken it so far. But till about 190 it took almost no cash. I used Gunthak's site, using the cheap and slow setting, to guide my skill-ups.

Anyway, pottery is 246 now after doing many many opal encrusted steins and star ruby steins -- sooo many hundreds I filled up two accounts worth of mules and a bunch of mules on my friends' accounts too -- serious numbers. And I lost a LOT of money lacquering star rubies at 68pp each. LOTS.

By the way, I eventually wound up destroying hundreds of opal steins. I sold hundreds more; wish I would have kept every last one I made.

[artbrann]

ask around in the OLD clerics, I was grumbeling in guild that I needed to find the one E.Marr cleric on Rallos to imbue star rose quartz and the dorf err dwarf swore he had the spell, so I had him cast it, it asked for a star rose quartz

before the scrolls became deity restricted a lot of clerics did get them, who knows you might already know a couple, and they never nerfed the ones already scribed

[Hallace111]

Can someone please tell me where I can buy a Casserole Dish Sketch.

Hal

[Aelf]

Casserole Disk Sketches

Hal,

You can look on the trade supplies area (by skill):

http://www.eqtraders.com/location/pottery.htm

Jaggedpine has casserole sketches at the karana outpost (the zonein area from Surefall Glade) and at the Brell Gnoll bank (in the same caves as the zonein from Blackburrow.) Your faction should be ok with at least one of these groups.

There is also a nearby banker to each vendor, so you can buy plenty. My wizard prefers to do pottery in Halas, so it is not a bad trip from the gnoll area.

Happy tradeskilling,

Aelf

[Colino]

Re: Gorthag's Guide to Pottery

I have to argue with you on this one. I did Sealed Vials from 168 to 188. After I fired them I sold them back to vendor for 1pp9gp. So, the only thing you lose money on is the firing sheet, clay and water.(If you farmed the skins).

Also, you don't have that stupid middle step of making Non-stacking Ceramic linings. IMO I think the Vial route is the easier way to go to 188.

I agree with you, however does the time spent farming the skins not negate the time spent making the Ceramic Linings?

I've been stuck at 180 or so and not sure whether or not i should continue to do the Dishes or try and farm for skins/pelts.

[Morani]

Colino, I'd farm the pelts/skins. Chances are that you can get all you'll need with one sweep though the Karana's and Commonland's merchants. I've seen LOTS of hands on support for the idea that the closer you are to the trivial the faster the skill-ups come. As close as you are, I'd say that you could trivial vials with as little as 2.5 stacks of combines (depending on INT and the whim of the RNG). As an example, I did patty melt till triv. from 148 in 640 combines. That's an average of 14.88 combines per point. With the last stack of combines, I got FIVE skill ups. I know that's high but even then I would not have been at all surprised with 3 because that's what I've come to expect. (I also got lucky in that my last combine to work with before having to travel to JP again netted me my 191.)

[Tanul]

Is is supposed to be like this? I'm at 171 skill. I did the Lined Vials to get to 168, then because it takes too long to do casserole dishes, I decided to do planar steins til 216. I spent 3k on tainted planar essence, did 250 combines, and got 3 skill raises. Is that normal?