Gorthag's Guide to Pottery

[Niteraptor]

Just got 250 Pottery last night and in reality it only took me 4 days to go from 0 to 250.

0 to 140something(i forgot) did normal recipes
Casserole Dishes to 199
Opal Encrusted Steins to 222
white ceramic bands to 231
star ruby encrusted steins to 250

overall i did have some very unlucky skillups, i lost about 100k doing this. It didn't take long, was just very expensive. at one point it too me like 800 combines to get 10 skill ups or something crazy like that.

[Dragnet]

Not so crazy!

overall i did have some very unlucky skillups, i lost about 100k doing this. It didn't take long, was just very expensive. at one point it too me like 800 combines to get 10 skill ups or something crazy like that.

That doesn't sound so crazy to me - as someone who GMed brewing before they made it easy - I remember streches of 300+ Minotaur hero brews without a single skill up. 800 for 10 sounds a real breeze.

[honeygram]

Ouch!! I really want to work on my skills but I don't have nearly the plat that some of you do. Maybe a silly question. My skill atm is about 102 or so. Do any pottery recipes slightly after this point make any plat back in the bazaar? I can't imagine there isn't a way to make money on this before 250. I don't mind putting money into this as long as I can make some of it back. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

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[Melchiord]

223+

Alternatively, you could use imbued (amber) cazic thule idols for most of 223+. Sure, they cost 1.5pp more.. but just sending a tell to an iksar/troll shaman is easier than finding that rare spawn EMarr cleric sometimes.

[Mendan]

It's mentioned here that imbued idols of E Marr are a viable way to skill up after 222. I looked up the recipe on the site (and Alla's) and it said idols use vials of distilled mana. Yet here the recipe is listed as using vials of clear mana. So which is correct? Since the difference is 14pp compared to 210pp, you can see why I would like to clear this up.

[Prizzle]

golden idol = distilled mana
imbued idol = clear mana

[Unmei]

Ah...

I see the source of your confusion, little grasshopper. GOLDEN idols require distilled mana. Do not do these for skill ups unless you can sell them or have someone who wants one. IMBUED Idols are much less impressive, totally market dead (If there ever was a market, which I doubt) and MUCH cheaper - using only clear mana. Both of these items are in the recipe list, but the section for Golden Idols is much larger than the entry for imbued ones...

[Yalum]

I have a ton of imbued plains pebbles in the bank that I need to get rid of, but clear mana sells for 35 to 40pp each in the bazaar on Morell. With that kind of insane markup, I'll stick with steins. :roll:

[Velisaris]

After having gone through all of this on my way to 250 (I did it the hard way...opal steins then star ruby steins ), I would advise up and coming potters to bite the bullet and spend time farming heavy clay from muddites and skill up on crucibles of escape once they hit 200. The most expensive component is the lesser succor spell at around 5pp with good cha/faction, which puts the total cost well under 10pp per attempt; unless you spend the time to farm the components for the glue, you won't be able to resale them. However, even just selling 2 or 3 for 4-500pp will easily recoupe the cost. Crucibles trivial out in the 230s I believe.

[CloudWeaver]

There is one issue with using Crucibles of Escape for skill up's. You need to fish in Old Seb for the Koi and need to have a good fishing skill.

Reason I bring this up is I tried it last night and got 9 Heavy Clays and got 8 Unfired CoE's but where unable to find the Misty glaze in bazaar so I turned to farming the items.

I also PL'ed a Human Cleric to 29 to Imbue Rose Quarts(took ~4hr with my 62 druid in Sola) So now I'm torn between Imbued Idols and Ruby combines.

Ill try and post my results from 222-250

[Unmei]

Bleh.

You don't need the glaze to skill up on the Crucibles. The skill up part of the combine is the wheel part, not the kiln part (which seems like it is nearly always trivial at or around 19. =P ) So if you're willing to destroy your product... presto and stuff. Though frankly, I'd like to make a couple of these, so I guess I need to PL my fishing. Can I train that at a guild? =P

[Kazim]

crucibles ?!!

Question to Velisaris & Cloudweaver who discuss using crucibles of escape for skillups and seems to indicate that getting heavy clay from muddites is the "bite the bullet" bottleneck.

I think you said you farmed the stuff for the glazing since you couldn't find it in the bazaar.

Where'd you get Sarcosypha fungus?? I've cleared the fungus men in guk/innothule a ton and the stuff seems to drop like 1 in 50 kills. At that pace, farming the fungus would be a MUCH worse bottleneck than the heavy clay. not glazing these things would be truly sad, since they are very useful after they're glazed.

Please, please, please reveal your fungus farming secret!!

Thanks.

[Velisaris]

Kazim,
You're not going to be farming the stuff for the glaze to skill up on crucibles (unless you're going to try and sell some). The glaze is used in the firing in the kiln and will always be trivial...thus the fungus and fish aren't needed . Simply making the crucible on the wheel is what I'm talking about, as a cheaper alternative to skilling up than steins. Of course, if you're thinking to try and make a profit WHILE skilling up, then...you're on your own...hehe.

[CloudWeaver]

I too wanted to pass a few Escape items to my Twinks. The Fungus can be found in Lfay as ground spawns. I try and head over there every time I have a free moment to see if I can find any. I use my overhead view to find the ground spawns in the mushroom patch.

Most I've found overthere where maybe 3 spawns but easier then killing Shrooms in other places.

Been busy in RL so I'm still at 216 Pottery.

[Kazim]

I do nice slow steady skillups. I even take the time to sell all the opal-encrusted steins from my skillups so far in the bazaar. The idea of making crucibles of escape and not firing them is sort of disturbing to me, though if the heavy clay drops frequently, I guess I'll probably go ahead and do this to save some cash. For those who've done this route, assuming you can clear the muddites as fast as they spawn, how many heavy clays per hour do you get (approx)?