Gorthag's Guide to Pottery

[CaiserSoze]

Haven't run across any extensive up to date pottery guides, so figured I'd post over here what I wrote up for the guild.. =) Enjoy, hope this helps some folks out...

Gorthag's Guide to Pottery

In general, don't bother wasting your time firing items to resell to vendor -until you get over 200 skill, everything is extremely cheap, even assuming a very bad run, you can hit 199 skill on close to 1k plat (also, resale values are way lower than cost, making it pointless except on high cost combines). All of these recipes are done in standard pottery wheels, except where noted otherwise. This is the fastest, and cheapest way to hit 250, without trying to sell off hundreds of steins over the next 6 months. You will need a chanter friend/bot, and a cleric of Erollisi Marr, or a cleric that scribed Imbue Rose Quartz before deity restriction was applied to scroll (it does NOT affect those that already had the spell scribed)

Skill 1-36
Make Ceramic linings - lots of them =) Cost: about 1 gold per combine
Small block of clay + ceramic lining sketch + water

Skill 37-41
Large Clay Jars. Cost - about 1 gold per combine
block of clay + large jar sketch + water

Skill 42-82
Smokers. Cost - about 7 gold per combine
large block of clay + smoker sketch + water

Skill 83-102
Small bowls. Cost - about 1 gold per combine
small block of clay + bowl sketch + water flask

Skill 103-122
Medium bowls. Cost - bout 1.5 gold per combine
block of clay + medium bowl sketch + water flask

Skill 123 -148
Large bowls. Cost - about 2 plat per combine.
large block of clay + large bowl sketch + glass shard + water flask

Skill 149-199
Casserole dishes. Cost - just over 1 plat per combine
large block of clay + ceramic lining + casserole dish sketch + water

Note: if you have a large supply of old world pelts/skins, its a little faster and cheaper to do some lined poison vials (sealed are more costly than casseroles, so not worth it)
Skill 149-168
Lined Vial sketches. Cost - about 9 plat per combine.
Small block of clay + lined vial sketch + non ruined/LQ pelt/skin + water

Skill 200-222
Opal Encrusted Steins. Cost - about 18 plat per combine. Fire with HQ firing sheet in a Kiln, resale - about 3.5 plat each. Net cost is only a hair higher than the imbued idols, if you make your own celestial essence, and should yield a considerably higher success rate, and thus faster skill raising.
Large block of magic clay + ceramic lining sketch + water flask + celestial essence + lacquered opal (jewelcraft: lacquer+opal) + sculpting tools.

PoP Alternate if you have good supply of Tainted Planar Essence:
Skill 200-216
Unfired Planar Steins. Cost: about 11 plat per combine
Block of Tanaan clay + tainted planar essence + ceramic lining sketch
+ sculpting tools, combine in PoK pottery wheel

Skill 223-250
Imbued Idols of Erollisi Marr. Cost - about 14.5 plat per combine, no resale
Large block of magic clay + vial of clear mana + imbued rose quartz + sculpting tools + idol sketch

[Emelyn]

Skill 223-250
Imbued Idols of Erollisi Marr. Cost - about 14.5 plat per combine, no resale
Large block of magic clay + vial of clear mana + imbued rose quartz + sculpting tools + idol sketch

Have you tried this, or is this just conjecture?
If the gem cost to trivial level pattern is consistent on the imbued idols, these are going to trivial lower than 250. The peridot trivialed at 248, I had to move up to emeralds for the last 2 points (was just using gems I could imbue myself).

[Unmei]

Er...

Skill 42-82
Smokers. Cost - about 7 gold per combine
large block of clay + smoker sketch + water

Why? If you're just trashing all this junk anyway, there's no reason to spend 7 times as much cash making a smoker when you could just make a 1gp small bowl. Same chance of skill up, lower cost, and less chance of having to hit the destroy button on a successful combine.

Oh... and I'm going to be doing the Erolissi Marr idol route as soon as my favorite Erolissi Marr cleric gets back (Aelorni! Where are you! ) so I may someday be able to provide info on a trivial...

[Padwen]

Re: Gorthag's Guide to Pottery

Skill 149-199
Casserole dishes. Cost - just over 1 plat per combine
large block of clay + casserole dish sketch + water

Lets not forget the annoying ceramic lining.

[CaiserSoze]

oops - missed a couple things in first writeup...


and yes, confirmed - Imbued Idols of E Marr are NOT trivial at 250 - double checked with my 250 potter today

[Valderon]

Re: Gorthag's Guide to Pottery

Note: if you have a large supply of old world pelts/skins, its a little faster and cheaper to do some lined poison vials (sealed are more costly than casseroles, so not worth it.

I have to argue with you on this one. I did Sealed Vials from 168 to 188. After I fired them I sold them back to vendor for 1pp9gp. So, the only thing you lose money on is the firing sheet, clay and water.(If you farmed the skins).

Also, you don't have that stupid middle step of making Non-stacking Ceramic linings. IMO I think the Vial route is the easier way to go to 188.

[Kellan]

E Marr Idol > 250

My EQ-wife is a 250 potter, and she verified the E.Marr Idols are trivial > 250. Finally the gods have smiled on me for choosing E.Marr as my diety as I finish pottery. (Her having a L30 enchanter helps too!) 15pp per combine is much better than Star Ruby steins!

[Wandor]

Imbued Idols of Erollisi Marr. Cost - about 14.5 plat per combine, no resale

I can't find a single Erollisis Marr cleric on my server. Guess I will have to find another route, I am getting tired of SR steins, they are just too expensive.

[Cigarskunk]

Skill 1-36
Make Ceramic linings - lots of them =) Cost: about 1 gold per combine
Small block of clay + ceramic lining sketch + water

Skill 37-41
Large Clay Jars. Cost - about 1 gold per combine
block of clay + large jar sketch + water

Skill 42-82
Smokers. Cost - about 7 gold per combine
large block of clay + smoker sketch + water

Skill 83-102
Small bowls. Cost - about 1 gold per combine
small block of clay + bowl sketch + water flask

You broke the golden rule here - KiSS - Keep it Simple Stupid.

Since you aren't firing the results and you can't sell them, that means you've got to drop them on the ground or destroy them. Since with the exception of the smokers, the cost per combine 1gp, may as well just go straight to the small bowls so you've got more failures - less garbage to deal with.

[Xekl]

I can't find a single Erollisis Marr cleric on my server.

Humans are the only Clerics who can worship E.Marr so it's a good place to start.

/w human cleric 41 65 all

/tell <insert cleric name> pardon me, but is your deity E.marr?

That or go post a request on the cleric boards

Good luck.

[Wandor]

Since I was having problems finding an Erollisi Marr cleric, I just did a search for "imbued" in the bazaar and camp up with all kinds of imbued gems. The recipe for all of the idols is the same so any imbued gems you can come up with work just as well, although they may be a little more expensive than rose quartz.

In any case, just about any imbued gem + clear vial of mana is going to be cheaper than buying star rubies.

[Niteraptor]

But if you have the money to spare...

First off, i'd do the white ceramic bands to 231 after opal encrusted steins (which triv at 222). They cost basically the amount of an opal and peridot per combine, and the only time consuming thing is making the cloudy mana.

There's lots of problems with the E.Marr Idols. It's very painfully time consuming.

A) Imbuing Gems (takes about 5 seconds per imbue)
B) Enchanting Clay (same, takes about 5 seconds per enchant)
C) Making Vials of Mana (see above)

Not only do you have to find a human cleric willing to do this for (which will cost you a little bit of money so they can profit all the time they are imbuing) But this takes three times as long as star ruby steins. With a geerlock, the steins don't fail *that* much i guess around 231. when fired they sell back to a vendor for 30ish pp, so on average you probably lose 50pp per combine. With 269 wis i'm going right now at about an average of a skillup every 80 combines since 210ish. I'm at 235 now and i'm definitely doing the home stretch (probably about 1000 combines) with star ruby steins. It's a much better option if you have the money to spare in my opinion, but if you don't mind spending literally weeks on getting the stuff for e.marr idols and want to save the money, by all means go ahead, I for one don't have the patience.

So basically do you want to take 1/3 or 1/4 the time for about 3 to 4 times as much money? It's your call

[Bartox]

1000 x 68 = 68,000 pp cost for star rubies.

/feels the pinch and winces

[Wandor]

So basically do you want to take 1/3 or 1/4 the time for about 3 to 4 times as much money? It's your call

I don't agree. It might be hard to find an Erollisi Marr cleric, but it is not hard to find imbued gems in the bazaar. It's also not hard to find vials of clear mana and blocks of magic clay in the bazaar. Last night, using only supplies I found in the bazaar I managed to get enough for 100 combines. I spent around 3500-4k plats getting everything together so I saved at least 2800pp on just the cost of star rubies. I also didn't have to spend any time making celestial essense or laquering gems so I was able to buy the ingredients and do all of the combines in the time it would normally take to just get the supplies ready to do SR steins. If you buy laquered gems and celestial essense the price goes up even more so the savings is even larger.

Incidently, I have noticed a much higher skill increase rate with idols than I have had with stiens. I made steins from 219-231 and I averaged a skill up around every 60 combines. I have done idols from 232-243 and I am getting a skill up about every 30 combines.

[Draggar]

Re: Gorthag's Guide to Pottery

I have to argue with you on this one. I did Sealed Vials from 168 to 188. After I fired them I sold them back to vendor for 1pp9gp. So, the only thing you lose money on is the firing sheet, clay and water.(If you farmed the skins).

Also, you don't have that stupid middle step of making Non-stacking Ceramic linings. IMO I think the Vial route is the easier way to go to 188.

I'd agree, for two reasons.
1) I'm a Rogue, and we need the vials (Poison, lined, and sealed) for Poison making.

2) If a merch is offering you 1.9PP for the sealed, sell them at the bazaar at 2.5PP to 3PP each (merchs usualy sell them for 3.5PP+ I think..). Rogues will swallow those up (high level poison making)...

I bought a stack of each type of vials:
Poison were ahout 25PP-30PP for the stack,
Lined were about 40-45PP for the stack,
Sealed were about 70-something PP for a stack...

Now, add on about 500PP for 1 stack of each type of suspension.. :shock:

I'll cut my costs anywhere I can now..