Grand Master's Trophy question..

[Impudent]

Without trying to offend anyone..

Has anyone made the GMT with a skill of under 200?

After going from 21 to 199 at the cost of 2k, I think I did fairly well. Although, I know I have not hit the expensive part yet.

[Velurian]

I don't know why anyone would be offended; it's your money you'd be throwing away.

I do remember hearing of attempts below 200, and successes at not much over 200, but I don't remember hearing about any successes below 200. (Of course, it's not like everyone runs these things by me...)

Even with a geerlok and a 199 skill (and thus effective skill of 208, almost 209), I'd expect a success rate in the neighborhood of 10%, if that high. Much cheaper to spend the 6-12k (and 3 AAs, if necessary) to get up near 250.

[Cravin]

Im not sure I have seen anybody post they have made the trophy under 200. On the other hand there is allways the 5% chance you could make it even at lvl 1. The GM trophys are kind of a strange bird with the atrisans seal being such a low trivial and such a high failure rate until you reach 250 pottery. If you have the cash to spend per attempt I say go for it. Just remember the folks that have gone 4 or 5 or 6 trys at 250 skill to get the trophy.

[Impudent]

Hmm.. 10% is kind of slim.

If I recall prices correctly..

150pp per ruby x 4 (with a free vial of mana)
350pp per velium bar x 8

3400pp before adding the cost of the BD, D, J and BS.

Aside from the high level of JC needed, I only need about 110 pottery for combines, correct?

[Cravin]

I believe the artisans seal is 136 pottery trivial. but like i said it has a pretty high failure rate with under 250 pottery. And yes its right around 3500PP per attempt.

[Impudent]

Thanks for the responses.

I suppose the pottery is similar to brewing in such that when making heady kiola's, the failure rate is very dismall.. even above the trivial

[Jaytee Bushwacker]

Got lucky I guess made the seal for my JC trophy first shot with 188 pottery

[Cuiva Lapdancer]

Made my Seal at 188 pottery too (first time) and succeeded on the trophy (first time too) at JC 236 + geerlok

[Velurian]

I tend to think that the failure rates on the seal pottery combine aren't any different than any other recipe with a similar trivial level, attempted at a similar skill level. It's just a very memorable thing to fail.

For a lot of people attempting their first trophy, this is the most expensive combine they've ever made (the trophy taken as a whole); you're sticking 3-4kpp (at least) worth of mounted gems into the kiln, making a combine based on a skill that you probably haven't worked on as much (unless you're attempting the pottery trophy...). Then add that you have two chances to fail on the pottery, and:

1) you're about twice as likely to fail, even if you're at sufficient skill to be at the 95% level,
2) every failure is going to hurt,
3) and you're a bit more nervous about the combine to begin with because of your lower pottery skill.

I guess, in the end, I just can't see SOE/Verant having gone to all the extra trouble that would be involved in assigning an extra value (some sort of success rate modifier) to every tradeskill recipe in the game, then to only actually use that value on a handful of items...