If 252 skill is the cap, what impact does AA JC Skills have

[Lunariel]

I've read previous posts on JCM and some people claimed to get close to max rate on just JCM2. Which also seems to support Delores' theory on adding to the success rate. Those recipes were either well over 50% in the first place or JCM2 add more than 25%.

Arghificious's excellent 900+ sample for JCM3 shows a success rate of 96.1%. And each of the recipes with 50+ samples is between 95% and 96.7%. So the cap still seems to be intact. My personal experience from huge batches of trivial combines mostly end up barely over 96% success. Not sure if it's a coincidence or maybe the cap is not exactly 95%.

Personally I've only done 6/8 Valorian rings as a non-chanter. Not sure if that will help much. This thread really need some more JCM 0-2 data.

Finally some off-topic comments:

As a druid I'm happy enough that I can use jewelcrafting. It's clearly a tradeskill geared for enchanters. Still adding JCM with so many good recipes in PoP wasn't very wise for the overall class balance. It greatly benefits those few high enough to get it, but the rest of the enchanters have to live with 'Look what you enchanters have...'.

The trouble with AAs like JCM is that it makes other classes unable to compete. Adding it to any of the other tradeskills would be a Bad Idea(tm). There are not enough tradeskills to share among the classes.

I think the reason JCM went live and not the fletching version is that fletching takes tons of money and time to GM. And not all GM fletchers are rangers. Jewelcrafting can be done with just a few K and an afternoon by the gem vendor.

[Lupoman]

made 250 + trophy finally here is my story


4 valor ring combines = 4 fails
)($&%*($*&$#*!!!!!!
9 blue diamond resist gear= 9 success
then
2 bloodmetal earings = 2 fails
)(#*%$*%()()$^*!!!! :evil:

Yes it makes a difference having JC3
No its not fair, i am barbaric, but cultured!!
I WANT JCM3!!!
/pouts

Edit: BTW, i am superstitious as far as what stat to buff, so i max as many as i can.

Ya i know makes no difference, am jus superstitious.
270 wis
270 str
270 dex
260 agil
238 sta
198 int

Do ya think int makes a difference?

)(%*%#()*%#()*^GAH!!
err sorry

:x :evil:

[Taushar]

4 valor ring combines = 4 fails
)($&%*($*&$#*!!!!!!
9 blue diamond resist gear= 9 success
then
2 bloodmetal earings = 2 fails
)(#*%$*%()()$^*!!!! :evil:

I can understand that. After I got 250 plus trophy on JC, I was excited to try new PoP recipies. I hunted a lot in valor so Valor ring was the best choice. I failed first 9 attempts before I made my first. Since then I have been about 50%. I do agree that I would spend my AA points on JCM if it was avaiable to me.

Taushar

[wolfcoast]

My experience with JC

Don't know if this helps but I didn't start JC (I'm an enchanter) until I was 63.
Did this with 262 Int, geerlok and JCM level 1
Used Gumkak's "slow and cheap" method all the way through.

results:
0-20 skill points via trainer
21-200 total cost was 3k
201-213 2500 plat
214-250 ~600 plat (figured out that enchanting helped offset costs)

So overall I spent just over 6k to get from 21 - 250. Not sure if having JCM 1 helped but I'm sure it saved me a few losses here and there.

[Iumuno]

I don't have much in the way of hard data, but since I got JCM1 PoP jewelry pretty much became trivial. I haven't felt the need to go for JCM2 or 3 after getting the first level.

[Lordro]

I also got JCM3 before starting JC. I don't think my skillups were any faster, but I think I saved money overall since I had less failures. It's not really worth it for the skillup to 250, but it's great for the non-trivial combines that you have at 250.