Sixteen-odd combines with 300 skill, +12% trophy, and JCM 2 and I can't manage to produce a Jeweler's Glass Lens. Is it just me, or is the recipe broken at the moment?
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If the recipe combines, not sure how you think it could be broken.
Also, considering net loss is 1 powder per combine, it is not like you have a big loss from having to repeat the combine.
There is a hard-coded success cap on this combine for the reason Roanne mentioned above.Shawlweaver Sphynx on Cazic Thule
Master Artisan Aldier on Cazic Thule
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That is the problem with the site
It totally misses the part in the book that explains why this may be happening to you.Ngreth Thergn
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At least it is noted on the recipe page
Notes: This has a very high failure rate even when very trivial. According to Dev-Ngreth this is to emulate "the need to keep grinding it to match YOUR eyesight".
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only took me 12 tries. I must just be that good
Thulack
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Baking(300)+15% Trophy, Brewing(300)+15% Trophy, Fletching(300)+15% Trophy, Jewelcrafting(300)+15% Trophy, Pottery(300)+12% Trophy, Smithing(300) +15% Trophy, Tailoring(300)+15% Trophy
Formerly Antimony Raventhorne Merchant of No Levels
95 Halfling Ranger on Cazic Thule Server
Baking(300)+15% Trophy, Brewing(300)+15% Trophy, Fletching(300)+15% Trophy, Jewelcrafting(300)+15% Trophy, Pottery(300)+12% Trophy, Smithing(300) +15% Trophy, Tailoring(300)+15% Trophy
Formerly Antimony Raventhorne Merchant of No Levels
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RE: Jeweler's Glass Lens recipe broken?
Got it on my first try. It is possible.
Got it on my first try. It is possible.
Ninden, 77 Rogue, proud member of Shining Alliance
Boramur Soulforge, 56 Knight
Boramur Soulforge, 56 Knight
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It took me a while to find a thread on this subject.
I came back to EQ after 3 years and of course, had to learn about JC all over again. This ONE item has been frustrating but I now see the reason behind the madness.
.......... HOWEVER...........
I made a Jewelers Glass and the Lens I made (after about 12 attempts) was "consumed" in the process. Now I have the Jewelers Glass and it is No Trade but Stackable? That suggests it also is consummable in the combines where it is used, and it IS going to be used starting with trivials 174 and up into the 400's.
Ok, when you are facing both the making of JC items and doing combines to evolve the trophy to effectively raise your skill/ability above 300, then why do I have to combine a trivial 50 item many, many times to get the item to make a Jewelers Glass which will be consumed in your higher end combines? Wasn't the idea of trivials established to mean we have passed a point in our skill where making this is a far easier process than having to sweat bullets to make 1 really tough item? Just trying to get enough Jewelers Glasses to make 100 combines later on, should not force me to make 300-500 clicks on a trivial 50 item just to get the 100 lenses to make the 100 Jewelers Glasses.
From a "roleplaying" point of view, I can see the logic. However, then shouldnt the Glas be non-consummable? All that work to make a lens and glass specifically for your vision, and you have to make a new one for every single new gem you cut?
I am hoping I am misunderstanding something here, and the logic to make it is fine, but if my guesswork is that the jewelers Glass is used up per combine/cut of gem, then the logic fails me and we are back into a roadblock placed in the process by well meaning developers who do not think things through very well.
/rant off.
I came back to EQ after 3 years and of course, had to learn about JC all over again. This ONE item has been frustrating but I now see the reason behind the madness.
.......... HOWEVER...........
I made a Jewelers Glass and the Lens I made (after about 12 attempts) was "consumed" in the process. Now I have the Jewelers Glass and it is No Trade but Stackable? That suggests it also is consummable in the combines where it is used, and it IS going to be used starting with trivials 174 and up into the 400's.
Ok, when you are facing both the making of JC items and doing combines to evolve the trophy to effectively raise your skill/ability above 300, then why do I have to combine a trivial 50 item many, many times to get the item to make a Jewelers Glass which will be consumed in your higher end combines? Wasn't the idea of trivials established to mean we have passed a point in our skill where making this is a far easier process than having to sweat bullets to make 1 really tough item? Just trying to get enough Jewelers Glasses to make 100 combines later on, should not force me to make 300-500 clicks on a trivial 50 item just to get the 100 lenses to make the 100 Jewelers Glasses.
From a "roleplaying" point of view, I can see the logic. However, then shouldnt the Glas be non-consummable? All that work to make a lens and glass specifically for your vision, and you have to make a new one for every single new gem you cut?
I am hoping I am misunderstanding something here, and the logic to make it is fine, but if my guesswork is that the jewelers Glass is used up per combine/cut of gem, then the logic fails me and we are back into a roadblock placed in the process by well meaning developers who do not think things through very well.
/rant off.
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Originally posted by Rumblebore
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I am hoping I am misunderstanding something here, and the logic to make it is fine, but if my guesswork is that the jewelers Glass is used up per combine/cut of gem, then the logic fails me and we are back into a roadblock placed in the process by well meaning developers who do not think things through very well.
/rant off.
/rant off.
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Originally posted by Rumblebore
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I came back to EQ after 3 years and of course, had to learn about JC all over again. This ONE item has been frustrating but I now see the reason behind the madness.
.......... HOWEVER...........
I made a Jewelers Glass and the Lens I made (after about 12 attempts) was "consumed" in the process. Now I have the Jewelers Glass and it is No Trade but Stackable? That suggests it also is consummable in the combines where it is used, and it IS going to be used starting with trivials 174 and up into the 400's.
Ok, when you are facing both the making of JC items and doing combines to evolve the trophy to effectively raise your skill/ability above 300, then why do I have to combine a trivial 50 item many, many times to get the item to make a Jewelers Glass which will be consumed in your higher end combines? Wasn't the idea of trivials established to mean we have passed a point in our skill where making this is a far easier process than having to sweat bullets to make 1 really tough item? Just trying to get enough Jewelers Glasses to make 100 combines later on, should not force me to make 300-500 clicks on a trivial 50 item just to get the 100 lenses to make the 100 Jewelers Glasses.
From a "roleplaying" point of view, I can see the logic. However, then shouldnt the Glas be non-consummable? All that work to make a lens and glass specifically for your vision, and you have to make a new one for every single new gem you cut?
I am hoping I am misunderstanding something here, and the logic to make it is fine, but if my guesswork is that the jewelers Glass is used up per combine/cut of gem, then the logic fails me and we are back into a roadblock placed in the process by well meaning developers who do not think things through very well.
/rant off.
.......... HOWEVER...........
I made a Jewelers Glass and the Lens I made (after about 12 attempts) was "consumed" in the process. Now I have the Jewelers Glass and it is No Trade but Stackable? That suggests it also is consummable in the combines where it is used, and it IS going to be used starting with trivials 174 and up into the 400's.
Ok, when you are facing both the making of JC items and doing combines to evolve the trophy to effectively raise your skill/ability above 300, then why do I have to combine a trivial 50 item many, many times to get the item to make a Jewelers Glass which will be consumed in your higher end combines? Wasn't the idea of trivials established to mean we have passed a point in our skill where making this is a far easier process than having to sweat bullets to make 1 really tough item? Just trying to get enough Jewelers Glasses to make 100 combines later on, should not force me to make 300-500 clicks on a trivial 50 item just to get the 100 lenses to make the 100 Jewelers Glasses.
From a "roleplaying" point of view, I can see the logic. However, then shouldnt the Glas be non-consummable? All that work to make a lens and glass specifically for your vision, and you have to make a new one for every single new gem you cut?
I am hoping I am misunderstanding something here, and the logic to make it is fine, but if my guesswork is that the jewelers Glass is used up per combine/cut of gem, then the logic fails me and we are back into a roadblock placed in the process by well meaning developers who do not think things through very well.
/rant off.
Shawlweaver Sphynx on Cazic Thule
Master Artisan Aldier on Cazic Thule
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