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  • My numbers 200 to 250

    Total combines: 1421
    Successes: 1360
    Failures: 61
    Failure rate: 4.3%
    Total cost: 6400pp almost to the platinum

    All combines were done with a Geerlok and with INT 290. None of the metals were enchanted.

    Below is a breakdown of my skill path. Note that occassionally I did non-optimal combines because I wanted to minimize the number of trips to the gem merchant in case of trivialing a gem type in the middle of a stack.

    Gold Fire Emerald: 74/80, to 202
    Platinum Malachite: 384/400, to 217
    Platinum Lapis: 76/80, to 219
    Platinum Turquoise: 117/120, to 222
    Platinum Hematite: 116/120, to 225
    Platinum Bloodstone: 196/200, to 231
    Platinum Onyx: 55/60, to 232
    Platinum Jasper: 38/40, to 235
    Platinum Star Rose: 58/60, to 237
    Platinum Carnelian: 40/40, to 238
    Platinum Star Rose: 38/40, to 240
    Platinum Amber: 58/60, to 243
    Platinum Jade: 130/141, to 250

    Best run was in 227 to 231: 79/80 combines and 5 skill points. Worst was in 244: 33/40 before I got a skill.

    Off to make my trophy now.
    Quesci Jinete, 70 Wizard on Quellious, an Everquest server
    Officer of Wraith

  • #2
    Guess my luck was all used up on the combines. Three attempts at the trophy tonight. First TWO :!: failed on the wheel. Third I actually got to fail in the JC kit. Server crashed shortly thereafter and no vendors in the bazaar to buy any more jacinths, so no more attempts for me. Bye bye 10k.

    Serves me right for selling my spare artisan's seals when I thought that Baking was as high as I was gonna go.

    Q
    Quesci Jinete, 70 Wizard on Quellious, an Everquest server
    Officer of Wraith

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    • #3
      How many of those were trivial combines? It seems unlikely that so many items would go trivial at a multiple of 20 attempts.

      Arghargh Grumble, Darkblood
      57 Ogre Shaman of Rallos Zek
      Alchemy – 165
      Baking – 200
      Brewing - 200
      Fishing - 200
      Fletching – 200
      Jewelcraft –200
      Potting - 200
      Grandmaster Smith - 250
      Tailoring – 159

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      • #4
        Quesci wrote:
        Note that occassionally I did non-optimal combines because I wanted to minimize the number of trips to the gem merchant in case of trivialing a gem type in the middle of a stack.
        None of them were trivial combines. When I was one or two points away from trivial I would go ahead and move up to the next stone just so I wouldn't have a partial stack of trivial combines. Since I had the geerlok, all of the combines I was doing were "virtually trivial" so I was able to stay at or around the 5% failure mark all the way (even with malachite).
        Quesci Jinete, 70 Wizard on Quellious, an Everquest server
        Officer of Wraith

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        • #5
          1380/1441 success rate ~ 95.77% success rate

          28.82 Combines per Skillup.


          Math Geek at Heart,
          Lilosh
          Venerable Noishpa Taltos , Planar Druid, Educated Halfling, and GM Baker.
          President and Founder of the Loudmouthed Sarcastic Halflings Society
          Also, Smalltim

          So take the fact of having a dirty mind as proof that you are world-savvy; it's not a flaw, it's an asset, if nothing else, it's a defense - Sanna

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lilosh
            1380/1441 success rate ~ 95.77% success rate
            aka "Failure rate: 4.3%" as reported by me (slight rounding error on my part)

            Q (proving that statisticians can't always do math)
            Quesci Jinete, 70 Wizard on Quellious, an Everquest server
            Officer of Wraith

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            • #7
              Made my trophy on the 5th try. Two failures on the wheel (at 200 pottery) and two in the bag (with a geerlok). Yay me!
              Quesci Jinete, 70 Wizard on Quellious, an Everquest server
              Officer of Wraith

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Quesci
                Originally posted by Lilosh
                1380/1441 success rate ~ 95.77% success rate
                aka "Failure rate: 4.3%" as reported by me (slight rounding error on my part)

                Q (proving that statisticians can't always do math)

                Sorry, I completely glossed over the part where you did your total stats..

                I posted those numbers because I , in my blindness, didn't see that you had already compiled the numbers.


                My apologies.
                -Lilosh
                Venerable Noishpa Taltos , Planar Druid, Educated Halfling, and GM Baker.
                President and Founder of the Loudmouthed Sarcastic Halflings Society
                Also, Smalltim

                So take the fact of having a dirty mind as proof that you are world-savvy; it's not a flaw, it's an asset, if nothing else, it's a defense - Sanna

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                • #9
                  That 4.3% failure seems pretty consistent.

                  For me going from 201-242
                  Tries 875
                  success 837
                  fail 38
                  Fail rate 4.3%

                  Cost me less than 1K in total as I enchanted my Plat so when I sold back to vendor I make 4pp profit on all success's

                  I only tried 2 main types which was Malachite to 218 and then
                  Camelian and the last 3 skills were all the gems I looted at Geos.

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                  • #10
                    another numbers

                    199 -> 250
                    260 wis +5% geerlok

                    total 1201 combines
                    1154 success / 51 fail ( 4.23% failure rate )
                    average skillup chance per try: 4.16% for total combine.

                    4.2~4.3 % should be magic number over 1000 combine maybe,
                    but skillup chance is quite different from 50/1400 of others.
                    do 255+ wis make porblem?


                    spme raw data, if you interested in.

                    skill_to_be (success/fail)

                    200 21/1
                    201 39/1
                    202 7/1
                    203 3/0
                    204 18/0
                    205 4/1
                    206 1/0
                    207 32/2
                    208 16/0
                    209 31/3
                    210 19/1
                    211 1/0
                    212 1/0
                    213 16/1
                    214 27/0
                    215 5/1
                    216 56/1
                    217 14/1
                    218 10/2
                    219 17/2
                    220 2/0
                    221 54/0
                    222 7/2
                    223 8/0
                    224 33/0
                    225 19/2
                    226 19/0
                    227 2/0
                    228 99/7
                    229 27/0
                    230 48/5
                    231 5/0
                    232 59/2
                    233 57/5
                    234 27/1
                    235 20/2
                    236 17/2
                    237 15/1
                    238 36/3
                    239 2/0
                    240 47/2
                    241 15/1
                    242 1/0
                    243 16/0
                    244 22/0
                    245 4/0
                    246 18/0
                    247 13/2
                    248 35/2
                    249 22/1
                    250 68/3

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                    • #11
                      I recalculated with new parser, some value was wrong.
                      new result below:

                      Total Summary:
                      Try: 1215
                      Success: 1155
                      Fail: 60
                      Success rate: 95.06% ( 4.94% fail)
                      Skill-up: 51
                      avg combine per skillup: 23.82

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                      • #12
                        I got NTCM3 tonight and did some jewelcrafting with my tradeskiller.
                        260wis, 108cha with amiable faction, and geerlock. went from 200 to 228 at a cost of 7820pp (rounded to the nearest platinum). May others have better luck than me.

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                        • #13
                          Total Combines 1,541
                          Successes 1,482
                          Failures 59
                          Failure Rate 3.83%
                          Avg combines per skill up 30.82

                          All combines were with 229 Intelligence, 148 charisma and a Geerlok. All metals were enchanted. I started with about 850pp and ended with 1,400pp by selling back to the merchant in Thurgadin. Evidently the Thurgadin gem merchants don't have Wolf's Eye Agate. Maybe they're on backorder.

                          Longest dry spell was getting 206 105 successes on 111 combines.
                          Quickest skillups was 207 to 216 161 successes on 164 combines.

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                          • #14
                            You would have saved yourself about 5k plat if you had enchanted bars. I think my costs from 192 -> 247 was under 2K. You get about 4-5p profit with each combine for enchanted plat bars.

                            Level 45 with a 220 int
                            KEI made the wait for mana much less painful
                            Caralon Captiosa
                            65th Enchanter
                            Claw of Nagafen

                            Friend to Aid Grimel and all around crafter

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dulsin
                              You would have saved yourself about 5k plat if you had enchanted bars. I think my costs from 192 -> 247 was under 2K. You get about 4-5p profit with each combine for enchanted plat bars.

                              Level 45 with a 220 int
                              KEI made the wait for mana much less painful
                              Not sure who you were talking to here, but if you can find an enchanter to enchant 1400 bars of platinum for only 5k, good luck to you. When KEI enchanters are making 3000pp per hour in the bazaar, asking one to enchant a single backpack will cost that much.
                              Quesci Jinete, 70 Wizard on Quellious, an Everquest server
                              Officer of Wraith

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