Best way to transfer plat between mulesw without boxing

[Sashanna]

Theres no way to transfer plat through the shared bank accounts so I was wondering how people have been transferring plat to their mules.

I only have one box and I hate logging on two accounts with a single box for two reasons (i) my box grinds to a virtual stop and (ii) my main is KOS in thurgardin which is why I use a thurgardin mule.

I have been swapping bags of rubies through the shared bank account due to the relatively high vendor sell back price on rubies but I still lose enough plat in the transaction to make it annoying - is there a better way to do it without two boxing?

For example is there anything that is reasonably valuable that sells back to vendors for the same price that you can buy it even if your mule's cha isnt great? I need to move at least 2k at a time so moving non stackable items worth 5sp each wont help...

Thanks for your thoughts.

[Verdandi]

With sufficient cha and a reasonable vendor you won't lose a single copper buying and selling water. But of course, that only lets you move 2 gold at a time. I don't know of anything more expensive than water that has an equal buy and sell rate. And I'm absolutely certain that it will never work without max cha and decent faction. Other than that, I'd say the only way to move money without losing any is to have someone hold it for you.

[Iannyen]

I have been able to keep a watch on the bazaar for crafted JC items that often get sold for less than best sellback. For example, Platnuim saphire necklaces at less than 225pp are good values. I transfer those items, then vendor dump em.

[Itek]

Yeah, if you want equal buy / sell items... they nerfed those a long time ago. (I used to be able to buy and sell Jasper at the same price, now you lose a little bit.)

So you have a couple of choices.

Friend you trust.

Accept the losses.

Transfer a silly amount at a time. (like 20 stacks of water or tiny daggers)

As the pervious person said buy low, sell high. (have to be pretty knowledgeable to pull this one off)

-or-

Buy stuff you need with the one that HAS the cash in the first place.

Want to buy a Frostweaver's cloak for your main but the mule has the money?

Have the mule buy it. (it's dropable, since you want to BUY it, right?)

Other than minor expenses like buying buffs / rezzes most stuff you want to buy can be transfered. (Peridots, food, drink, transferable equipment.)

Other then Multi-Questing (and buying training points from the NPC guildmasters) there are hardly ANY expenses which have to be paid IN PERSON by your main.

Best strategy is to make a high CHA enchanter mule. You get Gate and Alliance (faction boost) and a couple Illusions at level 8. Combine this with PoP for the travel advantages. Doesn't take much to get "best price" for almost all purchaseable items. (Most CHA boosting jewelry/equip is dirt cheap.)

[Lilosh]

Other then Multi-Questing (and buying training points from the NPC guildmasters) there are hardly ANY expenses which have to be paid IN PERSON by your main.

I hadn't thought of those two. The only one I would think you *NEED* money for is a horse/drogmor.


-Lilosh

[Cigarskunk]

Re: Best way to transfer plat between mulesw without boxing

I only have one box and I hate logging on two accounts with a single box for two reasons (i) my box grinds to a virtual stop and (ii) my main is KOS in thurgardin which is why I use a thurgardin mule.

If your main is KoS to the Coldain, then (1) why use a Coldain mule (2) how did you manage to get a Coldain mule - to the best of my knowledge they aren't a playable race yet (3) why not do the transfers somewhere other than Thurg?

[Silound]

I think he means a mule who is not KoS in Thurg, which would allow him to buy things necessary that he otherwise could not. I do the 2 accounts thing if I really need to move cash, but since most of my cash gets wasted if I have it, I usually leave it sit on my bazaar mule where it originates.

Silound

[Sashanna]

I cannot buy with my main because my main is KOS in thurgardin. Im not doing transfers in Thurgardin - Im using the shared bank account to avoid the KOS issue and also to eliminate travel time (apart from logging in and out time) by camping the main in bazaar and perma camping the mule in Thurgardin.

I have been using a Iksar monk wearing cha gear to buy coldain tempers but I lose about 38pp per ruby or 750 plat per stack because the monk only has about 85cha and havent got the gear to get him higher.

Thats a bloody good idea making a chanter mule with high cha - I never thought of that - ill do that. Im also going to wander around and check high price vendor items purchase and sell prices - compare loss at 107 cha with rubies and mini coffins to see if theres a lower comparative loss. Anyone else have suggestions? I bet the 1k 1 shot gate potions have a horrible buy back price.

[Ndaara]

well, first off have your bazaar mule buy a pair of opal encrusted steins for your iksar, that is 50 CHA right there and at least on my server they go for less than 40pp each any day of the week. pass those through your shared bank spots before you do ANYTHING ELSE with that ugly monk!

I *need* plat on my main to go dumpster diving in POT. My bazaar mule is only 11 =) and i go through a lot of blue diamonds. Working on smithing and blue diamond cultural costs not so much more than the other high elf smithing possibilities, when i'm sick to death of pharming shadowscream components.

[Sashanna]

Opal Steins - Ive done the PoTC quest but forgot about those. Picked up two for 10pp each and sold all the JC cha gear on the monk and the monk is still 113 cha.

Did a quick experiment and the sell/buy back ratio on rubies (131 pp each @ 107 cha) and tiny coffins (68 pp each @ 107 cha) is exactly 90.7% meaning you take just over a 9% loss muling cash this way which isnt too bad for convenience. (Rubies sell back for 118pp + change and Tiny coffins for 61 pp + change).

Would still like to hear if anyone has got stackable vendor sold items that sell back for a better ratio than 90.7% which are practical for moving large sums of plat between characters.

[Ndaara]

hum. well, the rest of my post was supposed to be,

I am far too cheap to lost 9% on transactions on a regular basis, although I've done it before when i was desperate. Usually i just wait hehe :P

i am looking forward to when we convince them to add a "one big pot" bank, so that ALL my characters have access to ALL my plat. I'm not really sure what the point of keeping it all separate is, except for RP purposes. And if that's the reason, wouldn't it make more sense to give me access to my EQ husband's bank account too?

[Sashanna]

I suppose my dear that depends if you want him to have access to YOUR bank account

[Obina]

Gems have the best buy back sell back. The "true" cost of a ruby is 125, you buy for 5% more, sell for 5% less. The 5% on both sales turns into 9.1% (of the 131pp - math for ya)

For low amounts (up to 1K) I tend to use diamonds I buy from players in the bazaar. There almost always are some for the true price of 200 pp (or less), so I only lose 5% on the sale. And my trader often buys stuff I need like runs to PoK to buy rubies and sapps when I'm making up mana vials etc. For amounts over this - and for lower amounts at times - I get help from a friend. (Though they often gasp when I put 20k in their window! /shrug )

Obina R

[Silound]

Someone long ago in a post determined that if you have max ally and 255 CHA, you lose 5% per gem sellback. I know everyone says taht CHA over 140 (or is it 104?) doesnt make a difference. I beg to differ. On my bard I can save a full 3pp more on buying a stack of Pearls than my cleric can at 150 and warmly. Of course, who the heck cares about 3pp out of 85ish?

Gate potions sell back horribly at like 360ish per. I accidentally bought one, then said oh well I'll selll it back for most of what I paid...nope. In the long run, there is no good way. In transferrifn large quantities of gems, you will lose out a few hundred to a few thousand plat. We need to find soemthing with almost 100% sellback.


Silound

[Mahlig]

I think Frost Giant Meat is the way to go. 1 silver piece each way...now just hope you are not transferring a lot of money. =)