Please explain

[merkell]

Let's say I have a skill of 100
I am working on something that trivs at 104
If I have a geerlok that gives me 105
Will I see skill ups to 104?

Also at that close of a triv am I better off using the geerlok for success or keeping a wisdom item +5 in that slot for skill up since I only have 199 wisdom.

Thank you

Merkell IronHorse

[ChaseFV]

Yes, even with a geerlock equipped, you will continue to get skill-ups until your actual (not modified) skill reaches the item trivial. As for whether or not to equip the geerlock or an additional WIS bonus is up to you. The geerlock will help you succeed more, so if you're doing expensive items, you may want to equip it to help reduce costs.

There has been a lot of discussion to the effect that successes give you a greater chance of skill up than failures, so you might also choose to equip the geerlock to maximize your chance of a skill up. However, as you pointed out, you're already rather close to the trivial of the item, so you might gain one or two additional successes per stack with the geerlock equipped; it may be worth it to go for the extra WIS in that case.

Personally, I went for the extra WIS when combining for skill ups, and use the geerlock only when crafting for sale. As always, YMMV.

[Morani]

There has been a lot of discussion to the effect that successes give you a greater chance of skill up than failures, so you might also choose to equip the geerlok to maximize your chance of a skill up

I'm one of the people who doesn't QUITE agree with the way things are being put in that discussion, I said my bit and now I don't have anything more to add that would be helpful so I've not continued to speak. This type of thing though is the exact reason I spoke up to begin with. At this point, what I WILL agree has been shone is that skill-ups and successes seem to come together more often than skill-ups without successes. But nobody knows WHY yet.

One possible outcome is that there is a direct connection, that (contrary to what Sony says) skill-ups are inadvertently (but directly) affected by success rate. In that case using the geerlok would be the most help.

The other possible outcome is that there is NO direct connection, that it is a coincidental product of the code that they are using**. (If I shine a blue and a yellow light on the same spot on the wall, the spot is lit with green. Neither light is green but you can't tell that by looking at the wall.) In this case, the WIZ item would be the most helpful.

Ultimately, it's your choice; do what you think will be best or you'll question it while you are doing it.


**For people wishing to point out that data shows that there is a correlation, note I said "coincidental product of the code". That means a mathematical process results in it working out that way. Another example would be noticing that your turn signal is blinking to the beat of the song on the radio. When you get into the mathematics of rhythmic cycles, it can be seen that certain rhythms "sync-up" with each other naturally for a period of time. If you study the rhythms that occur naturally, you'll see patterns. It makes sense that a rhythm chosen because it is easily noticed would be similar to a rhythm chosen to stand out and drive a song. It would be ridiculous to think that the rhythm of the turn signal was based on that particular song or the other way around (though I admit that the latter IS possible; musicians are an odd breed. )

[Turlie Silverwine]

(though I admit that the latter IS possible; musicians are an odd breed. )

Hey, I resent that!

[Morani]

(though I admit that the latter IS possible; musicians are an odd breed. )

Hey, I resent that!

And I resemble it.

[Calabar]

I have to agree with Chase on this one. My philosophy has been to get my wisdom up as high as I can. Sony has told us a higher wisdom will give us a better chance at gaining skill so we know this to be fact, at least as much as we’ll ever know. I also believe in making items that trivial as close to my skill as possible, unless there is something much cheaper with a higher trivial, such as Minotaur Hero's Brew. I don’t know if you have a better chance at skilling up this way, but you definitely have a better chance at producing a product. This product can then be sold to players or an NPC vendor and will thus help finance further combines.

The only time I’ve replaces a wisdom item for a geerlok during skill up sessions was when I was working on smithing. I wanted the best chance I could get to succeed at making fine plate because if I succeeded every time the cost would almost break even. So if you are trying to gain skill from high cost combines using a geerlok may be worth sacrificing a bit of wisdom.

Best of luck.

[Mortalist Nox]

I have noticed that Skill ups seem to come in blocks... I can go for 100+ with no skill ups. Then the next 20 attempts yields 5 skill ups. Is this just reaccuring coincidence or did I miss some FAQ.

Second, does the Greelock and the Trophy stack?

Third, I have heard a lot of rumor about stat bonus and skill ups.. can some one point me to a reliable source for the effects of int or wisdom.

I have seemed to have made tradeskills more of an obscetion then a hobby, is there a 7 step group I can go to and share these problems...

[HoshiAdam]

I have noticed that Skill ups seem to come in blocks... I can go for 100+ with no skill ups. Then the next 20 attempts yields 5 skill ups. Is this just reaccuring coincidence or did I miss some FAQ.

Coincidence.

Second, does the Greelock and the Trophy stack?

Skill mods don't stack.

Third, I have heard a lot of rumor about stat bonus and skill ups.. can some one point me to a reliable source for the effects of int or wisdom.

The highest of INT/WIS/(secondary stat for some skills, like str for smithing) will affect your skillup rate. As your highest stat increases, your skillup rate speeds up.

I have seemed to have made tradeskills more of an obscetion then a hobby, is there a 7 step group I can go to and share these problems...

Asking questions: Here and the various trade specific forums, but please be sure to check everything twice before asking.

Ranting: Primal Scream Room.

IG chatting: the serverwide.eqtraders channel.

*edit to clarify relationship*

[merkell]

Just wanted to thank you folks once again for the help.

Merkell