when are you considered a GM ?

[Riknan]

Sorry stupid question i was always under the impression it was when yu reached 250 in a skill, But seen some sigs, that tell you otherwise ??

so when do you get GM status ??





Riknan Terris thule

Jewlery 207 pottery 42 smithing 122 baking 143 brewing 135

[Lothay]

Grandmaster is a player term, not a Sony term.

Some feel that any skill over 200 is grandmaster, some feel that only a 250 skill qualifies.

Call yourself whatever you like.

~ Lothay

[Sionnan]

Personally, I started considering myself a GM when I successfully made my GM Trophies. I figure if the RNG deems me worthy, I am worthy


Taarah - GM Potter (249)
Sionnan - GM Fletcher (245)
Thinkerbelle - GM Tinker (242)
Quellious Server

[cattywumpus]

Your customers are going to assume that the term GM means you are at the pinnacle of your skill so I wouldn't call myself a GM until I had 240 skill and a geerlok. Lower if you have one of the better mod items.

Don't try to delude your customers into thinking you can do things you can't and both of you will be happier.

[Riknan]

ahh catty you followed me here or wait i probally followed you here lol from shamans crucible lol and aye i am going to wait till i get to 240s with my geerlock before i claim Gm status

[Emelyn]

Long ago, when getting to 250 was nearly impossible in many skills, the tem was much more randomly applied.

These days, I belive the main purpose of the designation should be for tradeskillers/customers to identify those who have the best possible chance of success on their items, therefore, being able to hit the cap of 252 via a geerlok or trophy or other item.

I would not say just having made the trophy, because there's many people who do that at a lower level yet are still far from the cap afterwards. A customer who wants some >250 item made doesn't care that you have your trophy, they just want to know you have max possible skill.

[Lilosh]

The answer to this question is easy:


When you work for Sony, get paid to play the game, have a Green name, and take your sweet time to get back to people.


*grin*


-Lilosh

[Delfontes]

I think this is a touchy subject... it was in the primal scream room last time, and for good reason.

I'm amongst those who think that GM is by definition having the Best possible chance of making an item.

So...

240+5%
229+10% etc.

A lot of people beg to differ and that is their perogative. A trophy only means to me that you got lucky once and I've seen people get it their first try at 202. I've also seen people at 250 skill fail 7 times .

What it boils down to is, because of the difference of opinions, I'd suggest asking what someones skill is unmodified before you have them do a combine for you, if you are a paying customer you deserve nothing less.

[Balkin]

For a long time, I was in the "Over 200" camp. Any unmodified skill over 200 was a GM instead of just "Master".

However, over the last year or so, the definition of "GM" for the general population has changed. People looking for a GM are looking for someone 250, or at least modified to 250 (or 252, whatever).

The trophy doesn't count. It's nice to have, but a GM it does NOT make.

So, my 250 brewer (252 w/Geerlok) is a GM. My 201 blacksmith is not. *shrug*

240 + 5% is a GM
230 +10% is a GM
220 +15% is a GM Since they have max possible success rate right?

[Zacatac]

Before, you were "GM" in the skill you took to 201+. But now I would agree with Balkin. When people look for "a GM ****" they want somebody close to 250 or has 250+ with modifier equipped. They don't want a 201 skilled person to do a combine with well over 250 trivial.

[Lilosh]

Ahh, but that's assuming I set my standards of a GM by what someone who DOESNT TRADESKILL considers a GM.

The unwashed masses consider 250, or 240+Geer a GM when they want a combine done?
Thats great, I'm thrilled for them.

They want to call someone with 100+ skill a GM?
More power to them.

They dont decide what title I get. They do not set the standards for what we should call ourselves.

We shouldn't have to decipher them. If they want someone to make a 230 trivial item, advertise for someone 230+. If they want a specific item, and they don't know the trivial, ask for someone who can make that item. If you want 250, ASK FOR 250. Don't use some generic term and expect someone to know "What you mean".




Not shouting or ranting or anything, just being insistant on this point.
-Lilosh

[Woodeckt]

They dont decide what title I get. They do not set the standards for what we should call ourselves

I agree totally I do not decieve my customers in any way. I am a GM tailor with a skill of 233 with Trophy. I am a GM Baker with skill of 240 with Trophy. I am a Master of all other skills ranging from 162 to 200 and till I pass 201 and get my trophy I will call myself a master not a Grand Master.

IMHO

[Delfontes]

I'll start calling myself a Grand Artisan at 101 skill in all trades, just to upset the 1750's .

You can paint yourself red and call yourself barny, but I'm still going to a tailor with a modified 252 before I'd go to one with a modified 244 for a 250+ combine. hehe

Then again, I'm lucky enough to know 2 of them, 1 in the guild.

P.S. No offense I hope, I know how hard tailoring can be, and hope oneday myself to be upwards of 200, in the very far future.

[Lilosh]

You can paint yourself red and call yourself barny, but I'm still going to a tailor with a modified 252 before I'd go to one with a modified 244 for a 250+ combine. hehe

And that is perfectly understandable.

But if you advertise for a GM tailor, dont be suprised if Billy with 214 skill responds.

All I ask is that specifically ask for what they want. Which I would think you personally would, based on the higher level of intelligence you have shown here.

-Lilosh

[Delfontes]

Yeah, I'm a numbers guy totally and completely. Names mean nothing really, if you have the skill needed for my combine, congratulations, I'm your customer. If you don't, keep linking your trophy and stack of successful Demi-Sec Champanges, I'm not buying.