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  • #16
    Aye. Wolf form was AWESOME.

    In wolf form, *SOME* Ogres in Oggok would glower at you. You could then do a fire-beetle eye quest, or something similar, to get yourself to Amiable with Clurg, the guy who gives the Stein of Moggok quest. That quest then raises faction a whole bunch, if you are persistant.


    Basically, Wolf form allowed people who decided to spend a cosmic butt-load of time raising their faction to do so in a lot of places. And it was fun.

    Now, while we still have Expensive racial potions which will allow us to do places like Oggok, People who want to buy from the brownies, or any other place where a racial illusion might not help, will be hurting.


    Now, if this change keeps me alive in Thurg in Wolf form, or Shadow haven in Elemental form, It might have an upside. But I just hope that it does swing both ways, Positive and Negative.

    And I hope the make an exception for wolf form. :-(


    -Lilosh
    Venerable Noishpa Taltos , Planar Druid, Educated Halfling, and GM Baker.
    President and Founder of the Loudmouthed Sarcastic Halflings Society
    Also, Smalltim

    So take the fact of having a dirty mind as proof that you are world-savvy; it's not a flaw, it's an asset, if nothing else, it's a defense - Sanna

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    • #17
      Well, guess where me and my druid are fishing tonight?

      *cheers for stackable Saltwater Seaweed*
      Samoht Farstrider
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      Baking 200
      Brewing 200
      Fletching 200
      Jewelcraft 182
      Pottery 186
      Smithing 215
      Tailoring 194

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      • #18
        While in chat waiting on a patch, i heard a GM say the Hollowshade war was working perfectly. They *may* have omitted it from the patch.

        Can someone go activate the war to verify yes or no?
        Splunge the Insane - Former Test Server Inmate
        Splunge (Reborn) - Hunter of Lightbringer

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        • #19
          With regards to the illusions...

          Someone reported over in the mana vials thread that they are currently (as of the post) sitting in the brownie village, in wolf form, and the brownies are conning apprehensive. Since, afaik, the lousy brownies start at KoS to everyone, its possible that wolf form was unaffected by the patch, or maybe the brownies have special rules for illusions (to help enchanters get their mana vial spells). Further testing of illusions might be in order.

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          • #20
            That was me, Eumerin, I was still able post patch to go buy in the brownie village.
            I think wolfform may have some special faction changes that go along with using it.

            I noticed they listed a few things in the patch (like the /getguildmotd and some others) that had already been in since last patch, maybe they just forgot to add the HSW?
            Retired -
            Avelyna, 69 ranger
            Tiadari, 62 druid
            Syrarri, 52 beastlord
            Rodcet Nife

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            • #21
              Look at the plus side to them screwing illusions - atleast now we'll be able to cast illusion earth elemental and Boon in town without having to worry about being attacked.
              Cigarskunk!
              No more EQ for me till they fix the crash bug.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cigarskunk
                Look at the plus side to them screwing illusions - atleast now we'll be able to cast illusion earth elemental and Boon in town without having to worry about being attacked.
                No more of

                http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3432

                ???


                -Lilosh
                Venerable Noishpa Taltos , Planar Druid, Educated Halfling, and GM Baker.
                President and Founder of the Loudmouthed Sarcastic Halflings Society
                Also, Smalltim

                So take the fact of having a dirty mind as proof that you are world-savvy; it's not a flaw, it's an asset, if nothing else, it's a defense - Sanna

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by lonewylfe
                  I think wolfform may have some special faction changes that go along with using it.
                  It's also entirely possible that they where talking about the NEW illusions that have come out recently and all the OLD illusions have not changed. Someone with an enchanter should be able to test that easily enough with the elemental forms and such.
                  Morani
                  Wanderer of Tunare,
                  Protector of The Mother's children.

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                  • #24
                    On my server right now, owlbears now completely control everything, there are no wolves or grimlings, and hence no attacks being made. This is fixed?

                    Oh ya, and on the issue of pathing, so, there I was with my sword and shield in hollowshade for hours. Things were going fine with it. Then all of a sudden, he stopped following me well, I had to continuously cast summon companion, it didn't matter if I crossed from island to island, or stayed on one, he was always out of range and not helping. I ditched him for a new one, and all was fine again. Was weird.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Morani
                      Originally posted by lonewylfe
                      I think wolfform may have some special faction changes that go along with using it.
                      It's also entirely possible that they where talking about the NEW illusions that have come out recently and all the OLD illusions have not changed. Someone with an enchanter should be able to test that easily enough with the elemental forms and such.
                      Or, even more likely, SOE simply just forgot about changing wolfform faction and will do it in the next patch.
                      Itzena Alhazared, Revenant of {Planeteers}, Vallon Zek. And also a seamstress.
                      Gelcea Macha, Wandering Animist of Tarew Marr. Will be a smith, one day.


                      "If it cannot hatch from it's shell, the chick will die without ever truly being born. We are the chick; the world is our egg. If we don't break the world's shell, we will die without truly being born. Smash the world's shell, for the Revolution of the World."

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                      • #26
                        Limited checks on wolf form

                        It still drops my CoV faction from kindly to amiably.
                        I am max ally to coldain and it stayed at ally - not sure what the spread in faction is.
                        If I have a little time tonight I will check Jaggedpine and Feerott mobs - I am still not going to run around Everfrost in wolf form though.

                        I am wondering if they changed the faction adjustment for humanoid NPC's only.


                        Also has anyone tried language exchanging? I was experimenting with a friend - we both have WIS at 255 and INT above 130 and I was unable to teach her Elder Dragon to a higher skill (I am at master and she stayed at skill 2). I spammed her a lot just the way I have done it in the past and it didn't work last night.
                        Distracted Druid Storm Warden of JinXed on Vazaelle

                        (see that Moderator tag - well that is for the Vazaelle marketplace, my posts and opinions should not be considered as anything but my own and not reflect poorly on the folks doing all the hard stuff here. )

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                        • #27
                          Re: Limited checks on wolf form

                          Originally posted by Froni Thunderpaws
                          Also has anyone tried language exchanging? I was experimenting with a friend - we both have WIS at 255 and INT above 130 and I was unable to teach her Elder Dragon to a higher skill (I am at master and she stayed at skill 2). I spammed her a lot just the way I have done it in the past and it didn't work last night.
                          Language training is a bit screwy. I spent some time learning and teaching languages with a friend. My Elder Dragon was 94; hers was around 63. So I started spamming her. To my surprise, I got several skillups in Elder Dragon and ended up at 100, while she was still below 90! She was spamming me in Dark Elvish, and I was getting buckets of skillups in that too.

                          They've definitely done some nice changes to language training. I'm guessing you can now learn a language merely by speaking it, even if you have zero or one skill in it. I can't test this, though, as all of my languages are at least at one.

                          Bleh. Now I have to go and update my guide again. Yes, I will eventually get around to doing that. =)
                          Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
                          Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
                          Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
                          Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr

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                          • #28
                            Hollowshade war was not in the patch message,nor was it fixed.

                            On FV,we tried to start the war with owlbears. You guessed it: The outpost didn't despawn/respawn when all three parts of the zone were owlbears.

                            Spent a few hours Upheavaling clumps of bears for shadowscream and left highly annoyed. A fun zone,still utterly bah-roken.
                            -Morgrist Do'Ceannai
                            Fironia Vie (Patron,House Do'Ceannai)

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