Spiderling Silk rare now?

[Zatz-Combine]

So there i am farming Spiderling silk (silk threads) in 30-45 min the spoils were very disappointing, down right depressing actually. Now unless splderling silk drops off other mobs like the other silks do (course,rough, pristine, black, etc.) there has go to be something retarded (messed up ) here. As I said in 30-45 min of farming I collected 150+ course silk 50+ rough silk, 15ish pristine spider silk, 15ish black spider silk, 10ish tacky silk, 5-10 sullied silk. This does not include silkless/empty corpses. The problem I see here is not the variety of silks available but the distribution amounts and trivial level vs.mob level. Now the kicker, I looted less the 50 spiderling silks! What I want to see is being able to use the rest of the silks that normally drop be use to create Silk Threads, yes for use in normal recipes. The other option is up the Spiderling silk drop rate "percentage" on all spiderlings, since its possible to loot course silk from a snake as well regular starter zone spiders. I would rather loot nothing then all these extra silks.

[Paloverde]

I am wondering where you are farming.

For increased harvest, I suggest the entry to the "inside" part of Crescent Reach and the spiders in Goru'kar Mesa. A special note on the Mesa spiders: sometimes when the big spiders die, a spawn of about five spiderlings occurs. This is what you look for when farming spiderling silk.

The yield in newbie yards, Commonlands decreased significantly when the cultural items began to drop a few years ago, making it almost fruitless to farm spiderling silk in those areas now.

[Shadrok]

Crescent Reach newbie yard

Just right out front ... about 5 spider spawns and they respawn quickly.

[Zatz-Combine]

Thanks for that info, but, the point is that the cultural drops have dominated the spiderling drops. Course silks are only good for low 30 trivials, how many combines does it take to get from 0-30 when the new system was designed to give faster skillups at lower trivials. 150+ drops that are not used in as many recipes as spiderling silks that do range in usage up to 300 trivial. I wuold like to see a secondary recipe to make silk threads using Course silk or one of the cultural silks, maybe 4 or 8 Course or Rough (or etc.) silks can make 1 silk thread. Should be very simple to add 1 recipe with existing drops that would just normally get deleted by the stack.

[mewkus]

Best place for getting spiderling silks hands down...

From a post on allakhazam's (link)

As of 6/1/7, the Bonecrawler Hatchlings & Burynai-bane Spiders located in the small crypt buried in a one of the western hills of the Field of Bone (Entrance LOC: -294, +2664) have SIX SECOND spawn time.

The loot is still atrocious, with an average of 1 in 4 spiders carrying Spiderling Silk, and even if they do it's usually just one. Regardless, when you kill 80 spiders in two minutes, it more than makes up for it.

If you can go in there with a friend who can busy themselves with killing while you loot, you can easily walk out of there an hour later with 4 or 5 stacks of spiderling silks.

[Zatz-Combine]

Again another person who misses the point....

[mewkus]

I understand that you don't want all that other stuff. But the adding of all that other stuff was not suppose to interfere with the drop rate of the normal stuff (they're on two different drop tables). I was just giving the info on where a better place to get spiderling silks irrespective of that other junk. And since the new(er) drops aren't interfering with the regular drops, I would doubt that they'd put in a recipe for converting coarse silk to regular silk (you can still get coarse silk off things that aren't even spiders).

[Zatz-Combine]

I understand that you don't want all that other stuff. But the adding of all that other stuff was not suppose to interfere with the drop rate of the normal stuff (they're on two different drop tables). I was just giving the info on where a better place to get spiderling silks irrespective of that other junk. And since the new(er) drops aren't interfering with the...

This I thank you for as well even tho I was not looking for that everyone assumes I am.

...regular drops, I would doubt that they'd put in a recipe for converting coarse silk to regular silk (you can still get coarse silk off things that aren't even spiders).

This is issue that need addressing , "(you can still get coarse silk off things that aren't even spiders)". What I'm not suggesting is not "converting" anything, clearly you misread my post and misunderstood what I wrote. What I want is a way to use non-sellable silk that is of no use to many tradeskillers who do the freebie quests for skills 0-54 and the numerous amount of people that actually use the guildmaster that spend 20 points in a tradeskill. So why the hell not make use of something that is there to use and 90% useless ?? combining 4-8 Course silks for 1 Silk Thread was only an example, and definitely not game-breaking or overpowered, and in a round about way add to the bazaar economics
All this in an effort to reduce the time sink that EQ is famous for,sigh. I really don't care how many places that are to farm spiderling silks there are too many to list, everyone has their own favorite places, nothing needs to be changed in drop rates here. Creating 1 recipe that takes already in-game item to craft another already in-game item is not that big of a deal, unless Ngreth wants to expand it to Rough silks, etc.
I set up a /buyer and seen mostly lowbies (alts? maybe) sell these Spiderling silks to me. If this new recipe is add I could be buying other silks as well INSTEAD of them getting destroyed.
I wish I had the skills to explain ideas more thoroughly the first time thru...

[Gorse]

Spiderling silks are not rare and they are dropping at the intended rate. it may not be the rate you like and be a burden of a time sink, but that is the price you have to pay for these components.



Gorse

[Zatz-Combine]

Thanks never would have figured that out, any other spiderling experts out there wanna back up his facts?

[mewkus]

This I thank you for as well even tho I was not looking for that everyone assumes I am.


This is issue that need addressing , "(you can still get coarse silk off things that aren't even spiders)". What I'm not suggesting is not "converting" anything, clearly you misread my post and misunderstood what I wrote. What I want is a way to use non-sellable silk that is of no use to many tradeskillers who do the freebie quests for skills 0-54 and the numerous amount of people that actually use the guildmaster that spend 20 points in a tradeskill. So why the hell not make use of something that is there to use and 90% useless ?? combining 4-8 Course silks for 1 Silk Thread was only an example, and definitely not game-breaking or overpowered, and in a round about way add to the bazaar economics
All this in an effort to reduce the time sink that EQ is famous for,sigh. I really don't care how many places that are to farm spiderling silks there are too many to list, everyone has their own favorite places, nothing needs to be changed in drop rates here. Creating 1 recipe that takes already in-game item to craft another already in-game item is not that big of a deal, unless Ngreth wants to expand it to Rough silks, etc.
I set up a /buyer and seen mostly lowbies (alts? maybe) sell these Spiderling silks to me. If this new recipe is add I could be buying other silks as well INSTEAD of them getting destroyed.
I wish I had the skills to explain ideas more thoroughly the first time thru...

From your original post...

What I want to see is being able to use the rest of the silks that normally drop be use to create Silk Threads

Maybe the difference is more subtle than I realize, how would this be different than converting the coarse silks to spiderling silks? The only difference that I can gather is that it would allow you to do one less combine.

With regards to your desire for skills to explain your ideas, some tips...
1) If you want to start a thread that doesn't involve discussion about the rarity of spiderling silks, choose a subject for it other than 'Spiderling Silks rare now?' Some titles that could work could be something like 'Making threads and swatches from cultural silks?' or 'Adding useful recipes for the low level cultural drops'
2) If you want to start a thread that doesn't involve discussion about the rarity of spiderling silks, start your opening paragraph with something other than a story backing up your perception that spiderling silks are rare.

[Zatz-Combine]

@mewkus
Converting ? Is that the same as calling it a recipe?? As for your tips, thank you, however, since this covers multiple sub-topics all referring to Spiderling silks, the supplied thread topic was more appropriate here as the other portion of the issue was the amount of other drops on spiderling_001 in respect to spiderling silk dropped amounts. Its been suggested that some zones offer better drop rates then others, I am not talking about the amount of spiderling spawns/kills, but the amount of dropped items from them and the useless items that cannot be sold to a vendor. Now if you go back to the OP. see what I farmed and do some rough guesswork, you'll see that, yes, the Spiderling silks have become uncommon or rare in respect to the overall drops, roughly guessing 20%(rare range 0-25%?), all depends on your point of view. What I offered was a very small simple solution (1 little recipe) so as not make a large amount of work for Ngreth or whoever does the coding for our lovely timesinks, errr tradeskills It would better the using the destroy button.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Spider-ling silks are not more rare than they used to be. The exception may be commonlands where something may have happened during the re-vamp, but I was not part of that, so I do not know. They should NOT have... but odder things happen.

The new drops of cultural do not reduce the existing drops.

As for other "conversion" combines. Not at this time.

[Zatz-Combine]

Spider-ling silks are not more rare than they used to be. The exception may be commonlands where something may have happened during the re-vamp, but I was not part of that, so I do not know. They should NOT have... but odder things happen.

The new drops of cultural do not reduce the existing drops.

As for other "conversion" combines. Not at this time.

I'll resign the argument on the rarity of drops to the explanation that odder things have happened to drop rate and proportions with exception. Although, the "conversion" combines is not intended as plural, it is intended for Coarse Silks only, the lowest in the trivial range of culturals(max 35). Otherwise, they are a waste plain and simple, and would rather see them removed from the game. The low end silk market is not worth mention. The rate at which players gain skill is faster then ages ago. We can put 20 points into Tailoring to start or we can get to 54 using supplied materials. Will adding 1 recipe hurt anything here now?
I was hoping that the response from Ngreth would be "it will be discussed"