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    I am a little late, but just learning about Powersources.

    Is there a definitive guide to them anywhere?

    Any answers, split by group vs raid would be appreciated
    1. What can be tradeskilled?
    2. Are the best ones dropped, bought (with faction / keys) or made?
    3. What are "sealed" powersources for (what exactly are they activating?)
    4. Discuss the power ramp up (foggy versus ....best group versus best raid)


    Thanks
    p.s links I currently have that do not contain all the right answers
    Katta Vendor
    Wiki

  • #2
    1. I believe you can tradeskill them all, but I have only made the raid-quality ones.

    2. The best - or raid quality - ones are the pure powersources. But you have to have the Solteris expansion finished (i.e. the raid targets killed) to use them. It depends on how many of the raid kills you have (in sequence) as to which of the pure orbs you can use. I have heard, although I do not know for sure, that you also have to have the kills under your belt to make the powersources that the kills unlock. Each kill unlocks a certain type of powersource.

    For example, to be able to use (and possibly to make) the pure metal orbs you have to have Solteris 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 kill credits. I already had all the Solteris kills when I made my first powersource, so I am not real clear on whether they are also required to make the orbs. I do know if you dont have the required raid kills to use them, when you click on them.. nothing happens. You cant open them.

    3. The "sealed" ones are just finished ones that a player can right-click to produce a single powersource. The "seal" on it makes it tradeable and stackable. The "seal" is automatically applied when you put the unsealed powersource through the firing process in the kiln. Think of it as the shrinkwrap . Once they are clicked, they are no-trade and don't stack. So like other pottery, you make the unsealed orb on the pottery wheel, then put the unsealed orb and remaining ingredients in the kiln, and end up with the sealed powersource.

    4. The powersources themselves have different attributes, depending on the ones you make. This is a site I use that outlines the different values each imparts to infusible gear: http://www.angelfire.com/myband/Trev..._Merchants.htm. There is a raid link for the pure powersources as well on that site.

    The pure powersources that are player-made are identical to the ones bought with phosphites and faction and raid kill credit from the Katta raid powersource merchant.

    They even can be sold back to him for a phosphite when they are empty, just like the ones you buy from him.
    Last edited by MareeTP; 01-11-2009, 10:06 AM.
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    • #3
      I don't find anything on a requirement to have the kill credits before you can make them. I had heard that at the very beginning of the expansion, but nothing about it now. Im sure someone else can confirm if you need the kills to make them or not.

      I also cant find a specific list showing which Solteris kills unlock which raid-level powersources, but Allah's lists the pure orbs on individual pages and tells you what events unlock those orbs. Maybe Kyros knows of a comprehensive list.
      Last edited by MareeTP; 01-11-2009, 10:22 AM.
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      • #4
        Thanks Maree.

        Just to clarify then:

        If I wanted to make the "best" quality of aug, for example the Pure Energeian Air Orb, I would make an Unfired Pure Energeian Air Orb, the dropped component being Chronal Resonance Dust.

        After firing, it would become a sealed power source.

        Clicking on it would "open" it for use.

        Although the Master Trader for Energeian orbs in Katta is unlocked as you complete Solteris events 1-7, there is no "lock" on tradeskillers making or apparently using these?

        Chronal dust is available to purchase in the bazaar or dropped all over SOD and there is no longer a requirement for farming phosphite or raiding Solteris to use the "best orbs".

        Correct? If no-one can confirm, I will probably try combining a few to see what happens.
        Last edited by Catweazel; 01-11-2009, 10:39 PM. Reason: clarity

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        • #5
          Yes for most.

          The chronal dust is also required in the firing process. The other dropped ingredient is sunshard ore.

          The cost per pure orb is roughly 1000-1500 plat in store-bought ingredients - I dont remember exactly. The fail rate is high due to the high trivial on the combine and high trivial on the firing process.

          The kills ARE required to use the pure orbs. You must have completed the appropriate Solteris events to be able to use the pure energeian power sources, whether you get them from the Katta merchant or whether you make them yourself.

          What I dont know is whether the events are required before you can actually make them as well.

          And its great to be able to make these and not have to farm Solteris trash to get the phosphites.
          Last edited by MareeTP; 01-12-2009, 06:47 AM.
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          • #6
            Did they ever fix the fact that the lower tier player made powersources all gave the same stats no matter whether you used the ones made with Sunshard dust compared to the ones made with sunshard ore?
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            • #7
              Well - I can confirm that no kills in Solteris are required to make the Pure Orbs. Success rate is about 40% with 15% clay finger loop and 0 Pottery Mastery.

              Clicking the sealed orb does nothing....no message.

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              • #8
                Well at least there's that. Can make them, just can't use them without the kills.

                Thanks for confirming. I dont know about the dust vs ore thing.

                Yeah, I have the loop, the pottery mastery and salvage aas and still fail probably 25% of them on a good day. Mostly while making the unsealed.

                But not complaining. Im just really glad they can be made. Our guild had a huge stockpile when we were doing Solteris.. it's dwindled away to almost nothing by now.

                Question though: The translucent elemental ones are bought from a different Katta merchant with just Katta faction and orum. When you make those, Im assuming you cant click those either without the ally faction?
                Last edited by MareeTP; 01-13-2009, 06:51 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MareeTP View Post

                  Question though: The translucent elemental ones are bought from a different Katta merchant with just Katta faction and orum. When you make those, Im assuming you cant click those either without the ally faction?
                  I cannot actually test that myself being ally....but its a good question.

                  Being able to make them is a great idea and is a possible source of TS income for those with the skills.

                  Thanks again for the help.

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                  • #10
                    I'm assuming you can use the made translucents since I can use the ones someone else buys. I don't have faction, purchase my non-player made orbs in bazaar and use them with no problem...don't see why the player made ones would be any different.

                    In fact...bought a Sealed Growth orb for my shaman a while back (forget what level, but he's 60) and had no problem using it.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Carmaris View Post
                      I'm assuming you can use the made translucents since I can use the ones someone else buys. I don't have faction, purchase my non-player made orbs in bazaar and use them with no problem...don't see why the player made ones would be any different.

                      In fact...bought a Sealed Growth orb for my shaman a while back (forget what level, but he's 60) and had no problem using it.
                      Well - this is confusing.

                      The player made, sealed translucent growth orb equivalent to the Katta ones is for players required level 75 and higher.

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                      • #12
                        Foggy (or Murky) orb instead of Translucent, one expects.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, one of those...like I said, forget what level. Definitely useable by a lvl 60, whichever it was. Remember not liking it...gave a boost in HP but took a hit in AC
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                          • #14
                            I can confirm for you anyone can make the Pure sealed orbs regardless of flags or faction but you must have he appropriate flags to click the sealed orb and turn it into a powersource. Additionally, anyone can make any other powersource (Translucent, Foggy, Murky, etc.) and anyone can click said orb into a powersource but the equipping restrictions of the powersources still come into play once you've unsealed it. So your level 60 alt could unseal a Translucent powersource but it wouldn't work for him until he is level 75.

                            I've also seen the only difference between the powersource tiers is the quality of the process they grant to weapons with a purity stat. If you are using powersources just for stats to your visible armor, there is no difference between a Pure tiered powersource and a Translucent or Foggy one.
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                            • #15
                              there is no difference between a Pure tiered powersource and a Translucent or Foggy one.
                              I will check in game but I think I disagree with that. There was great excitement as we progressed through Solteris and the pure orbs became available to us. We all traded up to pure from translucent .. and not just for the procs.

                              I have some I can test in game and will post here.
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