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  • Evolving Trophy Question... not evolving?

    Have done welll over 300 combinds got several skill up in Alchemy and zero % change on trophy its stuck on 19% ?? Have it in ammo slot and can not understand why it is not evolving is there a bug i dont know about?

    Prenzy

    Doing combinds in PoK shes 245 skil lvl and 19 % on a jorneyman tropy ? and doing combinds well above her skill lvl they are skill raiseing combinds lol.

    Ok thats what it is then the combinds I am doing are over 100 from her skill (skinspike XI, XII , XIII) Thank you for the help.
    Last edited by Prenzy; 12-29-2007, 12:25 AM.

  • #2
    Depends on where you are doing combines and your skill. It doesn't work well in instanced zones and if your trophy evolves faster than you it will have to wait for you to catch up. Also, make sure you are doing combines that are above your skill level.

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    • #3
      ammo slot?

      Prenzy, you say you have the trophy in the ammo slot. That is something I have never done, so I wonder if it evolves from there (of course it should). One way to check would be to look at the Evolution tab on your Inventory window. If the trophy is listed there, then it should be evolving. It's also possible the trophy just got too far ahead of your skill level.

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      • #4
        if you are doing combines 100+ trival points over your current skill lvl then it does not count towards evolving your trophy. the only exception is when you hit 300. then all 351+ trivals count as 351 to avoid this

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        • #5
          Actually, its not just at 300 skill that 351+ combines count as 350, they always count as 350. So once you hit 250 skill any non trivial combine will help you evolve, no matter how high.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bobaten View Post
            Actually, its not just at 300 skill that 351+ combines count as 350, they always count as 350. So once you hit 250 skill any non trivial combine will help you evolve, no matter how high.
            Are you sure about this? I seem to recall Ngreth saying the 351+ rounding only occurred for the level 6 trophy (which of course you cant have until 300 raw skill), but its been a while since it was mentioned.
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            • #7
              Definitely. I tested it personally around a year ago by getting trophy xp making Elaborate Boots (370 triv) when I was at 262 Blacksmithing skill.

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              • #8
                yeah I checked the code at one point. It does an early chance of >350 to 350. It does not check your current trophy level first.
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                • #9
                  Is that going to be changed? Since it actually defeats the purpose of the 100 point limit?

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                  • #10
                    I would hope not. It does not defeat the purpose of the 100 point limit. It merely opens the options of as anything that is 350 or higher counts as if it is 350 for the sake of evolving the trophy. It actually limits you if you are trying to evolve the trophy to level 7. You would not need as many combines if you could do 400 trivial recipes and get them to count as 400 experience.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lidori View Post
                      Prenzy, you say you have the trophy in the ammo slot. That is something I have never done, so I wonder if it evolves from there (of course it should). One way to check would be to look at the Evolution tab on your Inventory window. If the trophy is listed there, then it should be evolving. It's also possible the trophy just got too far ahead of your skill level.
                      The ammo slot is fine for the trophy. That's where mine has been for a long time and it got maxed there.
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                      • #12
                        The point of the 100 point limit is to encourage people to skill up on appropriate difficulty combines. At 250 skill, combines more than 100 points above your skill really are appropriate.

                        As far as ammo slot vs other slots, Ngreth told us at one point that ammo is his "default" slot to test trophies. It's the one slot we know gets tested, so if any slot were going to stop working, it wouldn't be ammo.

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                        • #13
                          The ammo slot works for evolving the trophy and getting the tradeskill modifier from the trophy. The ammo slot, however, does NOT provide any stats.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kaliaila View Post
                            Is that going to be changed? Since it actually defeats the purpose of the 100 point limit?
                            Possibly.

                            but at this point I think I will not.

                            If we ever raise the skill cap from 300, definitely.
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                            • #15
                              My trophy is stuck as well

                              I recently got my beginner's trophy and it levelled very fast to freshman trophy. I did a bunch more combines, getting about 20 skillups but the freshman trophy did not evolve at all, not 1%. The items I was making were no more than 20-30 points above my skill level. That didn't seem right to me. Do I have a bugged trophy or does it simply take that long to evolve it? As fast as the beginner trophy evolved I have to think something isn't right- I should have gotten at least 1% for 50+ combines I would think.

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