SoF Drops in Early?

[Rawckett]

Just curious if there are some SoF drops in early. I saw a buyer in the bazaar on Bristlebane looking to buy some stuff, and when I searched the site here, nothing came up. It is stuff I have never seen before.

Is it possible this buyer is taking advantage of beta info to obtain this stuff cheap before release? Just curious.

[Aldier]

Without knowing what items you are referring to, it would be tough to say. Also, anyone in beta cannot comment on if an item is going to have a use after the release and there is always the chance that things will still change from beta to release.

People in beta do get a slight advantage if they know a currently dropping item is going to have a potential use and is currently cheap/useless, but that is no different than someone stockpiling on Clockwork Gnome Bolts now anticipating they will be used in the new higher end AAAA type boxes.

[Tobynn]

There are certain items dropping which are suspected to be for upcoming recipes. I have a few each of Flawless Spinnerets and Alkalai Loam, both of which can be deemed as probably having no use. Tier 12 is expected to be one of those template-only tiers that does not have an associated level of cultural armor (its a skillup route) and therefore no use for the respective loam, spinners or marrows. Tier 13 will be the level 80 cultural armor.

I am not aware of any tier 13 (armor) drops currently in game, although I expect its possible some stuff may end up dropping from (current) high level raid mobs.

Btw, you can use the /buyer search window to locate tradable items that have indeed appeared on your server, although its not 100% accurate. The system seems to error towards not listing an item that really does exist, as opposed to listing an item that has never appeared.

[Bobaten]

I would assume he is referring to the drops that appear to be the next tier of combines for cultural (Flawless Spinneret Fluid, Alkalai Loam, and Superb Marrow). All three of those show up in the buyer window. I am not sure that Superb Marrow actually drops, since its not on Lucy or Magelo, but the other 2 show up in trader regularly. Of course, what we don't know is whether there is a cultural combine that uses those drops, or if that tier is skill up only (though with tier 11 requiring 275 to see, I expect 300 will be required to see these). Early information from beta has been cited by devs before as one of the benefits of participating in betas (for example, I got a huge stockpile of Highland Sludge prior to DoDH). For non-beta participants, you can often guess what might be used in a new recipe by looking at buying habits of others.

[Eleena Transient]

Since those items come after the Elaborate level, they should line up with the lvl 75 symbols. Ngreth mentioned on Sony boards there will be a 75 symbol and an 80 symbol, so I'd hold on to them.

[Abazagaroth]

I would assume he is referring to the drops that appear to be the next tier of combines for cultural (Flawless Spinneret Fluid, Alkalai Loam, and Superb Marrow). All three of those show up in the buyer window. I am not sure that Superb Marrow actually drops, since its not on Lucy or Magelo, but the other 2 show up in trader regularly. Of course, what we don't know is whether there is a cultural combine that uses those drops, or if that tier is skill up only (though with tier 11 requiring 275 to see, I expect 300 will be required to see these). Early information from beta has been cited by devs before as one of the benefits of participating in betas (for example, I got a huge stockpile of Highland Sludge prior to DoDH). For non-beta participants, you can often guess what might be used in a new recipe by looking at buying habits of others.

Alkali loam is low level, drops from like level 20 mobs or something. Never seen superb marrow. Flawless spinneret drops from level 75+ mobs though so might be for something.

[Tyranthin]

Alkali loam is low level, drops from like level 20 mobs or something. Never seen superb marrow. Flawless spinneret drops from level 75+ mobs though so might be for something.

You are correct when you say that Alkali Loam is low level. However, Alkali Loam and Alkalai Loam are different. Alkalai Loam is the Tier 12 drop.

[Bobaten]

The low level one is Alkaline Loam.

[Ngreth Thergn]

The drop tables have a small chance to drop the tier bellow and an even smaller chance to drop the tier above... it is that chance to drop the tier above that you are seeing and getting some of the T12 drops from. Looks like I pasted int he wrong tables (I had it cut off) but I am again ok with this

[Tobynn]

Alkali loam is low level, drops from like level 20 mobs or something. Never seen superb marrow. Flawless spinneret drops from level 75+ mobs though so might be for something.

Alkaline Loam is low level

Alkalai Loam is high level.

[Rawckett]

I was actually referring to Blue Aloe and Bleakwort in my original post, I see a couple of buyers buying them, but they are not in the EQTraders database yet. So was thinking they may be SoF drops.

[Firecaller]

Bleakwort and Blue Aloe are quest items for the Herb Retrieval quest in Katta (TBS).

[Rawckett]

Ahh, okay then. That's why I couldn't find them here, they quest items. For some reason, I thought they were tradeskill items. /bonkself

[Xenephex]

The drop tables have a small chance to drop the tier bellow and an even smaller chance to drop the tier above... it is that chance to drop the tier above that you are seeing and getting some of the T12 drops from. Looks like I pasted int he wrong tables (I had it cut off) but I am again ok with this

Assuming the Alkalai loam is the next higher level loam above soluble, then according to the current pattern, it will have no use whatsoever. I'm guessing this is why you are ok with it.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Assuming the Alkalai loam is the next higher level loam above soluble, then according to the current pattern, it will have no use whatsoever. I'm guessing this is why you are ok with it.

I have mentioned that there is a 75 symbol...