Capped success combines?

[tatanka7th]

OK, I know about DON GM armor/symbols having capped success rates, depending on the piece. I have also heard of the jewelcraft portion of OoW augs having a capped success rate (70%). Are there any other common combines that are know to be capped? Specifically, other OoW combines (smithing/alchemy/poison).

Thanks for the input,

Tat

[Bobaten]

All the portions of the OOW augs are success capped. The old tradeskill trophies also have a cap.

[Carlo the Curious]

Isn't some DoD spell research success capped?

[tatanka7th]

All at 70%? Man that really reeks, if so. 100K for augs, 80K for scoriae, etc, etc. And then 4 steps where they can fail!

Tat

[Rinikku]

Yep seems like the alchemy part is also capped. I have the maxed trophy +3AAs and I still fail about 1 of 5 or so, which would make it around 70% success. Definetly sucks to get the aug cut, make the slugworm acid, then have a fail... out about 50k plat or more... Don't know how anyone can sell these augs at cost... seeing as you would actually lose a lot of money that way.

[Dutchy]

No clue what the official succes cap on them is. but from keeping track of my own combines I'm averaging an 80%ish succes rate on black gold inlays and augmentation cuts with 300/315skill. Been less lucky on the actual adding of the effects, only 60%ish succes on adding minor and pure effects with 300/330 alchemy skill.
It can get very expensive, I love my salvage when I'm creating these.

[Ngreth Thergn]

the OOW stiff is not all capped at 70%... it runs the gamut.

I will not be giving exact numbers, but the best augs from OOW have the highest caps, while lower ones do not have any cap, and there is a range between those extremes.

I did not place caps on Any DoD spell research.

There are a few caps on a few of the AAAA combines, but they are there for FLAVOR more than "blocking"

Making a lens and mayonnaise both have success caps, to duplicate "repetition"

(Note... it is TECHNICALLY not a success cap, though that is what it boils down too. Instead it is a Minimum Failure Chance (which is what we actually enter...))

Also.

we *******MAY******* at some point put some sort of indication in the new tradeskill interface that there is an increased fail rate on an item. It is definitely something we have spoken about.

[tatanka7th]

Ngreth,

Thanks so much for the quick reply! A couple follow ups below:

the OOW stiff is not all capped at 70%... it runs the gamut.

I will not be giving exact numbers, but the best augs from OOW have the highest caps, while lower ones do not have any cap, and there is a range between those extremes.

By a "higher cap" I assume you mean a greater minimum chance to fail? Otherwise, a "higher cap" would indicate an even smaller chance to fail, compared to "no cap".

Also, when you say that the cap depends on the aug, does that mean the higher chance of failure applies to all three steps that require the aug (cutting, adding secondary property, adding inlay), or just certain steps?

Thanks for your help!

Tat

[Ngreth Thergn]

Ngreth,

Thanks so much for the quick reply! A couple follow ups below:



By a "higher cap" I assume you mean a greater minimum chance to fail? Otherwise, a "higher cap" would indicate an even smaller chance to fail, compared to "no cap".

Also, when you say that the cap depends on the aug, does that mean the higher chance of failure applies to all three steps that require the aug (cutting, adding secondary property, adding inlay), or just certain steps?

Thanks for your help!

Tat

mostly the inlay.
and yes greater "fail" chance on the best, less fail chance on the lesser. And 30% fail chaince (70% success cap... whichever..) is not acurate. it is not that bad.

[Bobaten]

My guesses are:
no cap on polished
85% on brilliant
75% on radiant cut
85% on minor effects
90% on white gold inlay
85% on black gold inlay
no cap on normal effects (using the white gold inlay)
85% on pure effects