lvl 6 -> 7 xp rate on Master's Trophies

[Kaliaila]

Aldier and Melenden have the right idea here. You need to be listing the trivals of the items you are combining and how many successful ones of each you do. I wouldn't worry about the failures due to the fact that you don't get xp if you don't kill the mob why would it get xp for us not making the item.

Also going with the mob comparison, it would make sense that to a point it would get more xp from a higher triv item than one that is closer to it's level. Just as we get more xp from higher level mobs than we do from ones that are closer to us generally.

[Aldier]

Que, when you are doing the combines. Open up your inventory and there should be an evolving item tab that will list all the evolving items you have, shows progress, and you can control whether or not they actively gain exp.

With MTPs it is easy for me to have the inventory open to that tab and my bags set to hold all the successes while just clicking combine/auto inventory in the tradeskill UI.

Also because of the nature of the MTPs, I am only listing the % evolution per 100 combines attempts. I am not tracking each point.

[Britneyy]

Someone posted in another thread 1100 baking successes for 100%.

That would be me! =D

I remember my skillups were
Note the ending in 99 combines due to 1 combine was used for the Masters Quest.

199 Combines = 17%
399 Combines = 36%
599 Combines = 54%
799 Combines = 73%
999 Combines = 91%

I did not tally the total successes.

Aldoer Why dont you do runs of 200 not 100?

[Aldier]

My bag space setup. I keep some other things on me at all times. So I only have 1 permanent bag that I emptied as well as 4 slots for my collapsible mixing bowl, collapsible spit, sewing kit...Also to do 200 combines would take 80 stacks of ingredients unless you don't break the cakes down until you clear out some room for the successes.

Also, I had always done them in sets of 100 because of the 1 brownie part= 100 combines.

700...655...62%
800...750...71%
900...845...80%

[Fonceur]

Small sample, but:

Smithing
2% in 20-28 (black gold inlay - 304 trivial)

Tailoring
1% 4-5 GM symbols

[Xulan]

Updated to here.

I cannot record some of the data because it shows total combines and not only successes. Failures do not give xp to the trophy, so I cannot count them.

[Aldier]

Baking some more MTPs... still hope to finish before too much longer.

1000...939...89%

[Adruger]

Wish I had understood how they would work a bit better before I did quest. Now I have a 299 JC skill with a lvl 5 trophy at 1%, kinda gimpy that I have to make so many more combines to evolve mine to max, because I had a higher skill to start with. I don't have a problem with the 6 - 7 evolve (well at least I understand it ) but to have to evolve 2 levels because I already had a high skill seems like punishment.

[Aldier]

Ngreth designed the trophies to work with you.

When you hit 300 JC, the trophy will evolve at *I think* 10 times the normal rate to catch back up with you.

[Qaladar Bragollach]

So only 100 extra combines.

That still sucks.

I reccomend you destroy it and start the quest again once you hit 300.

[Queletan]

My experience with baking experience...e

Seemed to alternate between 10 and 11 per.. sometimes two Tens in a row, never two elevens.. might be off by a 0-5 points, had a couple where I lost track and may have said "4" to myself twice while combining

from 0% to 100%

1044 combines

wts Misty Picnics =P

Q

[Elfdruidess]

Smithing from 6 -> 7 with Sickles (335 trivial):

11 successes - 1%
21 successes - 2%
32 successes - 3%
42 successes - 4%
53 successes - 5%
63 successes - 6%

Good enough to assume Smithing is 1050 successes with a 335 trivial item.

[Queletan]

Que, when you are doing the combines. Open up your inventory and there should be an evolving item tab that will list all the evolving items you have, shows progress, and you can control whether or not they actively gain exp.

Grrr.. that will teach me to not read a thread the whole way through.. did 1-100 baking before I read this.

Ty for the tip tho, will be alot of help later at least

Did 7 fletching combines (282 skill, 295 trivial), nothing yet..

Q

[Elfdruidess]

small sample, but here goes:

302 trivial (Velium Blue Diamond Bracelets) - 23 successful combines yielded 2% xp. I counted successful combines and checked the trophy after each one until it clicked over.

edit:

the way I understand it is the estimated number of combines to level 7 is based on a 350 trivial combine (in the middle of the 301-400 range we are allowed) and the xp increases/decreases proportional to the trivial. A person doing 335 trivial combines at 1000 expected might actually need 1100ish to complete and someone doing 301 trivial combines may need more (1200ish?), less combines needed if >350.

JC from 6 -> 7 using Gem Studded Chains (335 trivial):
11 successes - 1%
21 successes - 2%

My 21 vs Melenden's 23 has only two logical possibilities:
(a) mob drop (Velium Blue Diamond Bracelet) and store bought (Gem Studded Chain) makes a difference
(b) trivial (302 vs 335) makes a difference

Since it'll be illogical for store bought to take 21 while mob drop takes 23, I think possibility (b) should be the answer.

I also did Pottery from 6 -> 7 using Star Ruby Encrusted Stein (335 trivial):
11 successes - 1%
21 successes - 2%

So Smithing, JC and Pottery using 335 recipes are all 21 successes for 2%. (I had failures during these runs and can confirm that failures did not count to these numbers.)

My hypothesis:
Since Ngreth said 400 to 1000 depending on the tradeskill, I am inclined to believe these numbers are based on 350 trivial (i.e. 350+ truncated to 350). Thus, 335 trivial recipes take 1050. And 302 trivial recipes take 1150.

[rowacorn]

MTP Combines:

when it ticked over to 8% I had done 93 combines, 84 successfully.

The price of MTPs in the bazaar is crashing fast.

Rowacorn