PoR NDA Lifted (spoilers included)

[Wymp]

Still curious, just like Fonceur asked too ... any good news on DoN cultural drops?

Did cultural armor recipes change to not be a viable skillup path anymore?

Should we spend the day burning up all our supplies before the patch if we have any?

I gotta leave some surprises for you!

Don't make this one of em ... let us know one way or the other, would ya?

[Taiglin]

He has said a few times that it is his plan to let the community know prior to changes in recipes. Unless you are an alchemist you should be ok.

That said you better believe I did a skill up run yesterday lol. Don't take it personally Ngreth - I have just been playing since '00.

[Ngreth Thergn]

I said around march I did not say necessarily with PoR. And even the march is just an ETA (E = ESTIMATE)

[Pootle]

Ok, maybe i am just being a little paranoid.... But i had this thought last night when i was in bed and very jet lagged.....

With all these changed to trophys and stuff (and a big thanks for this, i am looking forward to getting them), andyway back to my concern...

Is our old 'trophy bag' safe? Mine is full of items and stuff, and i would hate it to poof when the new expansion goes live.

I am sure its been tested, but this has been one of those little worries that wont go away!

[Minta Rose]

GNOME MEAT???????!?!?!?!???

NO EATING GNOMIES!!!!!!!!!!

*looks both ways*

*pinches the gnomie meats for conversion to potions for Operation Gnomiefy the Guild Although We're Never Putting Even One Toe in Uqua Ever Again*

[torradan]

The lurker awakens...

I'm looking at the tradeskill quests now.. the quest says "create XXXX using tradeskills, and then has 0/4, 0/1, etc next to it.

Quick question for Ngreth, if he can answer it: If I have some of this stuff kicking around in the bank for my tinkerer (not in beta), can they be turned in for credit? Or would they have to be created after you receive the quest for credit? I'd check myself, but I don't have any of the brewing or baking items in my inventory to try to hand in or whatever to see if it works out.

I made one of the easy ones on my brewer, and each combine it says the task was updated.

Oh, I just tried this out for the heck of it.. since I like to accidentally remove taks when removing completed ones when I do guild things.
I removed the brewer task after I turned in my GM trophy and lemonades.. got the task again, and nothing is being shown as completed. Is there a way to recover this? Some of the items required for the task aren't overly easy to come by (say, hero parts for the baker test)

Maybe an "are you sure you want to remove this task?" dialog would be on the horizon?

OKOKOK... i just got out of my haze (home sick from work today).
So I removed myself from the brewing task, created lemonade (easiest to do), got task, and tried to turn in the item -- "I'm sorry, I have no use for this, you can have it back"

Going to leave original question up there in case Ngreth wants to look at it.

[Nolrog]

Since the NDA is lifted... It was mentioned many times that the coarse spider silk and other DoN GM cultural drops would be increased or part of other drop tables after PoR releases... So my question is, is that included in the PoR release or if it meant a few patches/months after the PoR release... I mean, coarse spider silk drops have only been lacking for a year now...

The key word in that sentence is AFTER. . . not during or as part of.

[Elyssanda]

Get out all those stacks of taelosian wheat/flour.. They FINALLY FINALLY have uses.

Fishing, we have MORE fish.... and I checked with Ngreth the high yeilds on the resulting bait are not incorrect, it's not an error. Some of them produce 58 homemade bait.

[Wymp]

I said around march I did not say necessarily with PoR. And even the march is just an ETA (E = ESTIMATE)

The key word in that sentence is AFTER. . . not during or as part of.

It's the around March part that made me curious .. considering Feb 21 is pretty well around March.

And even though I do have faith in Ngreth to try and warn us ahead of time now that he's there, it's still not exactly unheard of for changes to show up in expansions without notice.

So, I asked; and he answered as well as I guess he can; so that'll do for now. Just didn't wanna get my hopes up or get jammed with bags of stuff I can no longer use.

I'm trying real hard to stay excited about the tradeskill changes, btw, after finding out how lame the necro spells turned out; so I've got my fingers crossed hoping to see some interesting new stuff ... even though none of it includes coarse silk.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Ok, maybe i am just being a little paranoid.... But i had this thought last night when i was in bed and very jet lagged.....

With all these changed to trophys and stuff (and a big thanks for this, i am looking forward to getting them), andyway back to my concern...

Is our old 'trophy bag' safe? Mine is full of items and stuff, and i would hate it to poof when the new expansion goes live.

I am sure its been tested, but this has been one of those little worries that wont go away!

Did nothing to the existing trophies at all (except the Alchemy one, because the potion it used is no longer made, so changed it to one of the same difficulty).
They still make the temp bags, which can still be turned in for ONE (because of lore) permanent bag. So even if you do not have one of the old ones, you may still want to make one at some point just to get a bag from it up to each player of course on if they think it is worth it.

We also did not change the fact that the "current" trophies are tradable on Firiona Vie, but the new ones are not tradable on Firiona Vie. Once you guys figure the "bonus" you may see why. I will not explain why until then

[Ngreth Thergn]

The lurker awakens...

I'm looking at the tradeskill quests now.. the quest says "create XXXX using tradeskills, and then has 0/4, 0/1, etc next to it.

Quick question for Ngreth, if he can answer it: If I have some of this stuff kicking around in the bank for my tinkerer (not in beta), can they be turned in for credit? Or would they have to be created after you receive the quest for credit? I'd check myself, but I don't have any of the brewing or baking items in my inventory to try to hand in or whatever to see if it works out.

I made one of the easy ones on my brewer, and each combine it says the task was updated.

the only thing I am allowing this for is the "current" trophies. All other combines you must make it after you have been assigned the quest (to "prove" your ability then, not your ability in the past...)
Plus. If I did not make you do the combines, how could I "prove" that *you* made the combines, and not someone else supplied you with the combines. EQ does not keep a history of who made something. The task system is able to count it at the time you do do it, if you have the task... but other than that, no game system that the game has access too, keeps track of who did a combine. So the task has to be on your character when you make a combine.
And that pretty much answers the next.

Oh, I just tried this out for the heck of it.. since I like to accidentally remove taks when removing completed ones when I do guild things.
I removed the brewer task after I turned in my GM trophy and lemonades.. got the task again, and nothing is being shown as completed. Is there a way to recover this? Some of the items required for the task aren't overly easy to come by (say, hero parts for the baker test)

Maybe an "are you sure you want to remove this task?" dialog would be on the horizon?

OKOKOK... i just got out of my haze (home sick from work today).
So I removed myself from the brewing task, created lemonade (easiest to do), got task, and tried to turn in the item -- "I'm sorry, I have no use for this, you can have it back"

Going to leave original question up there in case Ngreth wants to look at it.

you did not have the task, so she had no use for it. You must have the task. If you remove the task, you must start over as the current system has no "tracking" other than an ability to track that a task was completed. it does not track partial completion after it is removed. (man character files would get HUGE!!!)

[theRiov]

Was the number of active quests you can have going simultaniously increased?

[Ixiola]

For the record, I'm pretty excited about the new trophies myself, and appreciate having some new stuff added to tradeskills.

I just got done skimming through 5 pages of threads, and the main concern seems to be about possibly wasting your time by making a level x trophy when you're only a few skillsup from the next level.

Would it be possible to do an upgrade workaround where you could request a new quest when you ding 300 skill, show your type 5 trophy, then ask for a (truncated) task that would upgrade it to type 6? This is for the people who didn't get to a type 6 naturally by skillups of course. I know it would need to be tested before anything could go live, but I think this would make it so people wouldn't feel like they are wasting their time making a type 5 trophy if they are only a point or 2 away from going straight to a 6.

[Turlo Lomon]

Perhaps have them issue a new certificate if you hail them and have a higher rank (50 block increments) then your trophy. So, if you hit 300 and trophy is level 5, it will make it level 6.

[Llientylln]

I think that before worrying about how hard it will be to level up the trophy once passing a skill level, everyone should wait and see for themselves how well it works currently. I was VERY impressed with all the trophies and the way they caught up on skill for being only part way through a level. I'm on the edge of my chair waiting for the chance to work on them for keeps!

And the fact that they include research is just ...