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  • Getting a 'head start' for 60+ people (comments welcome)

    I was asked to post this in general for opinions instead of just letting Denmom hog the post, so here ya go Iannyen.

    Denmom,

    I have a little request that i would pitch to you since sony actually reads this board and you are respected.

    As you know, when a person puts a point into a skill for the first time, they get the persons level as their base skill number, with 20 as the maximum. Currently, however, If i used a skill point at level 1 to start a skill and then neglected the skill until later, say level 21, and put another point into it, the person would only get one point raised, up to skill level 2. This seems like something that could be modified without hurting tradeskills. What if the limit was removed, and a 65th level character wanted to consider starting a tradeskill. One point into a tradeskill would give them a 65 skill to start out with(or equal to the level of the character). This would reduce the amount of camping neccessary by high level people after green mobs for pelts, silk, and other annoying things.

    Im sure you would not like to see more people interested in tradeskills, and with the new items in the game, many people are considering it, and would probably be much less reluctant if they had a head start, so to speak. Personally, i would be happy if verant gave us something else to do with our unused skill points, but this seems as good an idea as any.

    Thanks for listening
    Azith Evertoon
    Iksar Grandmaster of the Nameless

  • #2
    Um...

    Boooo...

    That about sums it up

    At 65 why farm? Go kill a few things, make a couple hundred PP, then buy stuff in bazaar to get any skill to 65 in under 30 minutes.

    Most skills are decidedly easier than that, and can get to 65 in 30 minutes off of vendors for less. When something is already that easy, why on earth do you think they need to spend more time to make it easier?

    What would be nice is an AA that is like JC mastery for enchanters... but just made any character able to AA Master the first skill they got over 200... so Khoren could have Smithing Mastery etc.

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    • #3
      I have to agree with Delfontes. A skill of 65 hardly requires any time at all, and most of the tradeskills can reach 65 with store bought components. The ones that cannot, like tailoring, can go buy supplies from all the lower level characters selling the stuff in bazaar. It spreads a bit of money around to lower levels who can't possibly make the kind of money a level 65 can.
      Back in the days of smithing 100 combines a week for skill ups, I made nearly all my leather padding. Now I do maybe 10-20 combines a week, and buy all my leather padding and many other supplies from players. As long as they are reasonable about pricing, I'm happy to buy. (and if you're 1 of those 50pp each for morning dew people, go soak your head).

      Level 62--250 High elf smith

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      • #4
        cant you make picnic baskets til like 80ish?

        Unidin Jewlman, Coercer of OSW

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        • #5
          Woven mandrake root goes to 66, thus qualifying for vendor bought easy to 65.

          Just 2 mandrake roots, combine in sewing kit. I do not think it's possible to get much easier than that.

          Granted at best price a stack of mandrake root is 41pp, but it still gets you there very fast.

          Honestly have no idea what it sells back for, or what it's even used for, as I went with cured silk to get past that point in Tailoring.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by delfontes
            Woven mandrake root goes to 66, thus qualifying for vendor bought easy to 65.

            Just 2 mandrake roots, combine in sewing kit. I do not think it's possible to get much easier than that.

            Granted at best price a stack of mandrake root is 41pp, but it still gets you there very fast.

            Honestly have no idea what it sells back for, or what it's even used for, as I went with cured silk to get past that point in Tailoring.
            Them, you make (I think) steel bonings, and combine one woven mandrake with a steel boning and you'll get 10 picnic baskets (Trivial at 76 I think).

            They sell for a few silver to merchants, you don't make back a fraction of what you put into it, but its something and a high yield.
            Draggar De'Vir
            92 Assassin - Povar




            Xzorsh
            57 Druid of Tunare - Povar
            47 Druid of Tunare - Lockjaw

            Hark! Who is that, prowling along the fields! It is Draggar De'VIr, hands clutching two hardened pitas! He cries gutterally: "In the name of Thor the Mighty, I hereby void your warranty, and send you back to God!!!"

            "No one can predict the future, so we all should eat our desserts first!" - Gaye from 'The Maelstorm's Eye" (Cloakmaster's Cycle book 3)

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            • #7
              *sigh*

              Guess im just badly wanting to use those friggin practise points for SOMETHING. ive got one point in every tradeskill, every language, and my normal attacks/skills are either maxed out or over 100. comon verant. a 10 to 1 trade in for aaxp points would be good...or even just straight xp. give us SOMETHING to do with those **** things. What good are another 5 levels worth of practice points going to do for us??

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              • #8
                Rofl,

                In that at least, I can agree with you.

                I have hundreds of skill points unused on my 2 characters...

                No idea what I plan on doing with them, figured someday there would be a use for them.

                You can Max fishing from 0-200 if you like, that could get rid of a bunch of them.

                Somehow that one isn't like the rest of the tradeskills.

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                • #9
                  How about a quest NPC that, for 100,000 pp will put any skill at 200?
                  Just a thought.. alibi a bad one.

                  Kitchi Behlakatz
                  65th Season Feral Lord of Rodcet Nife
                  Proud Owner of the 8th Coldain Shawl

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                  • #10
                    Ironically, I couldn't get to the baords shortly after I posted the last message in the Denmum's forum. But, luckily, everyone here pretty much summed up what I was gonna say. I can't think of a single skill that cant be vendor bought to 65 or better. I think the points would be better spent on Fishing, or add them into your language practice, or add it into research if you're an INT caster. But if tradeskills are so frustrating to get to 65 in that yo uhave to spend training points in it (not what you are saying, I know) then tradeskills might not be the right thing for said person to persue....
                    Master Iannyen Sparklybitz
                    Coercer of 65 Dissapointing Illusions
                    Bearer of the Blessed Coldain Prayer Shawl

                    Tradeskills were once displayed here

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                    • #11
                      practise points

                      Just wondering:
                      Is there a limit up to which you can spend training points to raise a (trade-)skill?

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                      • #12
                        Tradeskills can only be raised to 20 with your trainer
                        December 2000 - July 2003

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                        • #13
                          Not only that.....

                          .... but as all tradeskills are available from when you first create your character, regardless of what level you are at when you put that first practice point into the skill, it will still come in at 1.

                          The only time that the skill is dictated by the level is for class specific skills, like meditate or bash, that are only available at a certain level.
                          Larong Alsou
                          52nd Level Druid
                          Tunare Server
                          "Theres someone in my head, but its not me"
                          Pink Floyd, Brain Damage, The Dark Side of the Moon

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                          • #14
                            BAH!!

                            silly error resulted in double post!!
                            Larong Alsou
                            52nd Level Druid
                            Tunare Server
                            "Theres someone in my head, but its not me"
                            Pink Floyd, Brain Damage, The Dark Side of the Moon

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                            • #15
                              Tradeskills can only be raised to 20 with your trainer
                              Actually you can go to 21 with your trainer.
                              Master of every trade skill and all 25 languages Craftah of Luclin
                              Enchanter of 65 Seasons
                              Master of every tradeskill and all 25 languages

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