Omens of War AA Masteries

[TheCraftyBard]

Sorry if this topic has been beaten to death, but I scanned the forum and couldn't find any clear info on the OoW AA Tradeskill Masteries.

With your investment of 3, 6, and 9 points, it says your chance of failure goes down by 10, 25, and 50%. Does that mean that if, say, you do a combine with a 1% chance of success (eg, >250 trivial at skill level ~150), your chance of failure (99%) goes down by a tenth, a quarter, or a half? Wouldn't that mean that ANY combine with even a TINY chance of success, will have a success rate of almost 50% with a total of a paltry 18 AA points, a FAR easier thing to attain than 300 skill, no matter how far below the trivial your skill is?

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. What's the point of even bothering to get your skill up? Somehow it feels like I've misinterpreted the information, but I can't think of any other way to look at it.

Thanks for any info, and sorry again if this topic has been run over like a dead cat and I didn't look hard enough for the information.

[Scuzz Zilla]

The same thing occured to me as well, Craftybard and i had been meaning to check into this for a while now.
The calculator information (thought out of date it may be) offers the same results as you predict here =///

With a skill of 5.
Attempting a 325 combine will have a 52.5% chance of sucess (with 3 Tradeskill AAs)
*big frown*

I know the formula is out of date but my god.... did it work like that? at least until last month? IF so thats just GOOFY

[Mesaa]

Not sure on this. Doesn't make scense for it to work like that.

I would assume it would increase your success rate at such a low skill instead of decrease your fail rate. But then I have not spent aa's on it to test it out. Ill grind out 18 aa's and let you know.

[Boleslav]

Oooh, there was a big debate about this when they first came out. I can't remember what the conclusion of that was. I seem to recall someone did some testing with brewing recipes and mastery1 and concluded that he didn't get a radical increase. Could be wrong though.

I have Blacksmithing Mastery 3 and I belive it operates as advertised at higher skill levels though.

Boleslav Forgehammer

[Bupper]

Here's a thread on this topic.

Grand Master vs. Mastery AA

[Boleslav]

Thanks Bupper, beat me to it. I was just returning to post the link.

Here's the condensed version for those who don't want to read the whole post:

The formula used for success probability can give failure results greater than 100%. However, any result that gives more than a 95% chance to fail is revised to reflect a 95% failure rate. The AA has its effect BEFORE the part that revises it to a 95% failure rate.

So if the formula would reflect a 300% failure rate, with mastery 3 you would have a 150% failure rate, which would still get revised to 95% at the end.

This allows the AA to be meaningful at higher levels without giving undue benefit at lower levels. Almost elegant!

Boleslav Forgehammer
Paladin of Brell in his 67th Campaign
E'ci - Sacred Destiny

[TheCraftyBard]

I didn't think of it in terms of a cap on success/failure of 95% for higher or trivial combines, but now that I do, it makes perfect sense.

Thanks very much, all!

See you in Twilight