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  • Is hard cap over 300 now?

    I understand that you can now show a tradeskill skill over 300 when you equip your geerlok or 15% modifier. My question is, does anyone know if that skill level is active in the calculation of a success? Or is it just showing and the actual cap is 300 hard and soft?

    Sorry if this has been answered a hundred times already ;0
    Quakr Tectonicus
    Barbarian Warlord
    250 Smith
    Drinal

  • #2
    Originally posted by wold2
    Sorry if this has been answered a hundred times already ;0
    If you were really sorry, you would've done a search first.

    And yeah, I've got a 300 baking skill, and with the spoon equipped, my skill registers as 315.

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    • #3
      You did not answer his question.

      From reading the tradskill skillup post it says '- For smithing, the max effective stat is 355. 340 for all other skills. '

      This is what he is asking. Although I have 425 int the actual cap built into the formulae is 340. So even though you are showing 345 smithing....does it matter ? What actual cap is built into the combine ? If any.

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      • #4
        I doubt either one has been proven one way or the other.

        The post about 'max effective stat' was a set of derived numbers, based off the stat caps at the time. It is possible that stats over 355 don't matter for skillups, and it is possible that they do.

        I'd bet that displayed skills are the same as effective skills, and that higher stats increase skillup rates even past 355. Proving either of these two statements would take alot of boring work. =)
        --
        I am not the Yakatizma you are looking for.
        No, really.

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        • #5
          hard cap

          "If you were really sorry, you would've done a search first."

          Don't people ever get tired of this lame non-answer? I didn't find the answer on the boards.

          "And yeah, I've got a 300 baking skill, and with the spoon equipped, my skill registers as 315."

          No, you didn't answer my question at all. The question is whether 315 is now your effective skill. From the answers posted so far, it seems noone knows. Have the developers addressed this point??

          Also, just to clarify, I'm not asking about stats (like strength in my case, which is 410) above the cap. I'm asking about skill displayed above the cap, and whether it is effective in improving your success rate.
          Last edited by wold2; 03-04-2005, 12:25 PM.
          Quakr Tectonicus
          Barbarian Warlord
          250 Smith
          Drinal

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          • #6
            I heard that one person saw their skill as 345 with a 15 percent item. No extensive testing of failure rates with 100s of combines was done, but I assume it really counts as 345.

            Some skills (such as Alteration and Meditation) still have a 252 cap, but tradeskills seem to go as high as they want.
            Last edited by Sylphan; 03-04-2005, 12:31 PM.
            83/1000 High Elven Enchanter on cazic (8x300 tradeskills)

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            • #7
              I would assume that the stated skill is the effective skill unless presented with evidence to the contrary.

              We won't know for sure until some folks start to do credible numbers of the new DoN combines and logging their results for a long time, or does a LOT of augment combining.

              Even at that point it may take a while, as someone with a skill of 300 will also most likely have spent the points to get Mastery 3 in the trade, which will increase the success rate making changes harder to detect.

              While I am tired of the same old non-answers, I understand people's frustration in seeing the same old stupid questions. Your question, however, does not fall into that category.

              Boleslav Forgehammer
              Paladin of Brell in his 67th Campaign
              E'ci – Sacred Destiny

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              • #8
                The only way is to have a person with 300 skill do about 10,000 combines without a modifier, than another 10,000 combines with a modifier, and see if there is any statisical evidence to show conclusive answers.

                Let me know when you're done.

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