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**burnttoastv** · 01-04-2003, 09:45 AM

There is a post buried deep, I'll try to link it when I find it, that addresses this issue. From what I remember Verant verified that Solusek Ro imbued armor existed in the game that was player made, that was all. After the post a lot of people tried different combinations with an imbued fire opal but nothing was found. Off the top of my head, high elf and dark elf combinations for chain and plate did not work.

**Heartsong_Steelsoul** · 01-04-2003, 11:21 AM

Hmm, I don't recall anyone verifying that. I know that it hurts to hear it, but it more or less makes sense that there is no Sol Ro armor. There are no clerics or other priests of Sol Ro. Again, however, they screwed things up when they made Veeshan armor, where there are also no priests and a "deity" who doesn't give a darn about followers (well, non-dragons, in her case).

Anyway... why should Erudites make the armor? Heck, one of the Erudite deities probably hates Sol Ro, since he's Prexus, the Ocean Lord. *shrug* OLD issue here, unfortunately.

**Xekl** · 01-04-2003, 08:53 PM

Caster Wearable Deity based armors - an analysis

Anyway... why should Erudites make the armor? Heck, one of the Erudite deities probably hates Sol Ro, since he's Prexus, the Ocean Lord. *shrug* OLD issue here, unfortunately.

Interesting observation. Let me address the 2nd part first. Quoting from Verant's page on Deities:

Prexus, the Ocean Lord, is allied with Rodcet Nife and enemy to Bertoxxulous.
Quellious � The Tranquil This peaceful child-goddess is allied with Rodcet Nife and Erollisi Marr, and an enemy to Rallos Zek and Innoruuk.

and

Solusek Ro � The Burning Prince ...is allied with no one, enemies with no one. He has a friendly rivalry with Mithaniel Marr.

The reason I'm thinking erudites is simply because we specialize in tailored armor. We already make a failry decent type of armor in Woven Platinum which can be imbued for Prexus and Quellious and worn by wizards worshipping those deities. Since the only classes that can worship Solusek Ro are bards and wizards, it makes sense.

Erudites make steelweave for plate classes and Woven Platinum for caster classes who worship Prexus, Quellious, or Cazic Thule.

There is a HUGE variety of race/class/deity combinations for plate wearers and smithing accomodates most of them. But robe wearing classes usually fall under tailoring. There is a short list of race/class/deities for the robe classes, it makes a lot of sense to give this to the tailors.

Let's look at all of the caster class races and see what can be made by deity.

Dark Elf casters can worship Innoruuk and can wear Dark Prince Soverign Chain armor, made by Dark Elves.

Erudite casters can worship Prexus and Quellious and can wear Woven Platinum Armor, made by Erudites. EDIT: Erudite Cazic Thule Necros can also wear Woven Platinum armor.

EDIT: Skip this paragraph. Not deleting it because it was commented on.
Dwarven caster classes can worship Bristlebane and Brell Serilis and the only race that can make imbued armor for these deities is Dwarf. Unfortunately they do not make caster wearable armor. The stats on the Underfoot and Mischeveous Chainmail is the same as that for dark elf and erudite caster wearable imbued armors, so methinks someone at Verant has goofed here. Dwarven casters are left out in the cold

Gnome casters can worship Bristlebane and Bertoxxulous but there is no Gnome Cultural smithed or tailored armor. None is made by any other race, even the other shortie

races for the Gnome casters.

High Elf casters can worship Karana, Erollisi Marr, Mithaniel Marr, and Tunare but there is no High Elf Cultural armor. High Elf Karana and Tunare armor is made by Halflings and Wood Elves, they do not make caster wearable armor. E.Marr and M.Marr for High Elves is made by humans but they also do not make caster wearable armor for these deities.

Humans casters can worship Bertoxxulous, Innoruuk, Karana, Erollisi Marr, Mithaniel Marr, and Rodcet Nife. Human Innoruuk caster armor is made by Dark Elves. Karana armor for Humans is made by Halflings and Wood Elves but they do not make caster wearable armor. Human Bertoxxulous, Erollisis marr, Mithaniel Marr, and Rodcet Nife armor is made by humans but they do not make a caster wearable armor. So Human caster deity based armor, save for Innoruuk worshippers, are left out in the cold.

Edit: Iksar can only worship Cazic Thule yet they have no cultural imbued armor they can wear. It would seem to be reasonable to include iksar necros with the Erudite Necros. Same goes for Iksar Shadow Knights; put them with the Erudite Shadow Knights (as for imbued cultural armor that they can wear). Iksar is an evil race, but necros and shadow knights are an evil class even if they can be erudites

This covers all of the cultural deity based (imbued) armor for all caster classes EXCEPT for wizards. All wizards can also worship Solusek Ro. It makes a lot of sense to give this to the tailors, especially Erudites. They are tailoring masters AND the vast majority of Erudites are Solusek Ro worshipping wizards.

**Wandor** · 01-07-2003, 02:15 PM

Only bards and wizards can worship Sol Ro.

Bards can already wear the non-imbued versions of Heraldic plate so there is no real need for any Sol Ro plate, although it would be easy to make a version of Heraldic plate for Sol Ro bards.

It does make sense to have multiracial Sol Ro silk armor. Rather than restrict the race, restrict the class since all silk wearing Sol Ro followers are wizards. It would be nice to have some Sol Ro wiz/all armor available.

**Heartsong_Steelsoul** · 01-07-2003, 05:36 PM

Dark Elf casters can worship Innoruuk and can wear Dark Prince Soverign Chain armor, made by Dark Elves.

Correct.

Erudite casters can worship Prexus and Quellious and can wear Woven Platinum Armor, made by Erudites.

And Cazic Thule (Necros), who also have Woven Platinum. Wizards can, as pointed out, worship Sol Ro. Enchanter, Mage, Wizard can be agnostic. There is non-imbued caster armor of dubious worth.

Dwarven caster classes can worship Bristlebane and Brell Serilis and the only race that can make imbued armor for these deities is Dwarf. Unfortunately they do not make caster wearable armor. The stats on the Underfoot and Mischeveous Chainmail is the same as that for dark elf and erudite caster wearable imbued armors, so methinks someone at Verant has goofed here. Dwarven casters are left out in the cold.

Um, say what? Dwarves can be: Warriors, Paladins, Clerics and Rogues. Warriors can worship Brell or be agnostic, I believe. Paladins are brell only. Rogues are brell or Bristlebane or Agnostic. Clerics, the only dwarven full casters, can worship only Brell. All classes and combo's are provided for. The chain can be brell, non-imbue or bristlebane, the plate is brell, non-imbued, or bristlebane. The bristlebane is useless to the dwarves themselves.

Gnome casters can worship Bristlebane and Bertoxxulous but there is no Gnome Cultural smithed or tailored armor. None is made by any other race, even the other shortie races for the Gnome casters.

Gnome plate wearers are taken care of with brell (who they also worship), bristlebane or non-imbued dwarven plate; bertox clerics and SK's get screwed slightly. Gnome rogues are taken care of with the dwarf chain, although, again, no bertox imbue.

High Elf casters can worship Karana, Erollisi Marr, Mithaniel Marr, and Tunare but there is no High Elf Cultural armor. High Elf Karana and Tunare armor is made by Halflings and Wood Elves, they do not make caster wearable armor. E.Marr and M.Marr for High Elves is made by humans but they also do not make caster wearable armor for these deities.

High elves have cultural armor for Tunare worshippers - it's chain mail. They have non-imbued for everyone else, again of dubious value. All high elf plate wearers must worship tunare. Wood Elf plate wearers can wear that or the non-imbued; since wood elf plate wearers are warriors or bards, they aren't losing much from the lack of stats.

Humans casters can worship Bertoxxulous, Innoruuk, Karana, Erollisi Marr, Mithaniel Marr, and Rodcet Nife. Human Innoruuk caster armor is made by Dark Elves. Karana armor for Humans is made by Halflings and Wood Elves but they do not make caster wearable armor. Human Bertoxxulous, Erollisis marr, Mithaniel Marr, and Rodcet Nife armor is made by humans but they do not make a caster wearable armor. So Human caster deity based armor, save for Innoruuk worshippers, are left out in the cold.

Well, I'm guessing human casters can also worship Tunare, but that's based on high elf tunare armor having humans listed on it. Humans can also wear non-imbued from high elves, dark elves OR erudites for int caster armor.

<shrug> Not sure what the point was here, but I wanted to straighten it out. You left off Iksar necro's, who have no armor either, not even non-imbued.

**Xekl** · 01-07-2003, 06:02 PM

Oops, I made a boo boo there about dwarves. Must have been too late when I was making that post. Looked at my list for dwarf imbuers but didn't cross check it with my list of dwarven classes.

As far as plate goes, I was concentrating solely on imbued versions of armor for casters.

And I did forget Erudite Cazic-Thule worshipping necros. Shame on me since I make the stuff

I also forgot about Iksar Necros. Since all iksar worship cazic thule, including iksar as a race that can wear the erudite caster armor would make some sense, but because it's an evil race, it probably won't happen.

**Lilosh** · 01-07-2003, 09:04 PM

Xekl:

I believe the comment about Prexus and Sol Ro was a joke.

Water extinguishes Fire. Or gets boiled by it.

If it was a joke, I thought it was funny.

-Lilosh

**Heartsong_Steelsoul** · 01-08-2003, 08:45 AM

It was a joke.

I AM surprised that he isn't listed with a rivalry with the gods of elemental water though, Povar, E'ci and Tarew Marr. Hmm, actually, isn't that part of the plot of the cleric epic - the gods of elemental water versus the gods of elemental fire?

<= warrior

**Eumerin** · 01-08-2003, 02:16 PM

Technically, Solusek Ro isn't the god of fire. That would be his father, Fennin Ro, and Fennin is the one involved in the Cleric epic, iirc. Solusek appears to have been a bit more active in Norrathian history than his father, however.

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