PoK sklliup vs. success rates

[Iannyen]

Ok, this is probably just a superstition or a fluke, but has anyone else noticed a difference between the success rates and skillup rates in PoK and other zones? Data follows, and I feel a little weird looking at such a small cross section, but here goes.

Brewing Skill: 151
Product : Qeynos Afternoon Tea (forgot actual yeild, but the success in PoK was far higher than in SH)
using the brew barrel in PoK, outside the brewery, made 36 attempts, 0 skillups.
using brew barrel in SH, upstairs, inside, 20 attempts, 2 skillups

Brewing skill 188
Product: Demi-sec Champagne
using the brew barrel in PoK, inside brewery, 20 Attempts, 11 successes, 0 skillups
using the brewbarrel in SH, 20 attempts, 7 successes, 2 skillups

I discussed this in the Emarr TS channel, and a friend informed me that it was probably a fluke and that he would be surprised if I did another 20 and got a skillup.

Then he triple dog dared me....

..so I did 20 more in SH, and got a skillup.

Long story long, does anyone feel they had better success rates in PoK, but a lower skillup rate?

And wheres my LuckyFish?

[Lilosh]

I find that if I hop on one foot while whistling the tune from Andy Griffith everytime I zone, then I always get a skillup in the next 100 combines.


Is that a fluke, or coded into the game?

<grin>

-Lilosh

[Iannyen]

Well, I'm wearing my aluminum foil deflector beanie now, so yer space rays cant get me!

[andaerice]

I haven't tried measuring skillups/successes between different zones, but I have noticed an unusual number of successes there. I sat down there one day to do 148-200 in fletching, and was failing maybe one combine in 60 attempts, and all the trivials were above my skill level.

Anyway, can't some creative programmer make a chanter or shaman spell to get a higher skillup rate? There is KEI, but sheesh, if they can take the time to make a spell called All Your Base Are Belong To Us, it seems like there could be a "get skillups faster" spell.

/auction WTB Skillup Mastery, 100pp PST

[Cigarskunk]

I'll definately agree that the success rate in SH blows chunks - when I was messing around with MTPs, without failure I'd do lousy in SH - one success per 40-60 combines at best, yet in Rivervale I'd have an easy one success per 20 combines on average.

This is off of about 300 combines in SH and 500 in RV.

[bana-zir]

not uncommon

I don't think this shows anything.

Unless you create a mule every day and skill up from 1 to 112 or something on a mule in SH and a mule in PoK every day for 3 months, I will still say anything you find is likely the RNG.

I have had many times where I will try various trade skill combines (at 250) all during the day with miserable fail rates.

I have had days where I tried combines over an 8 to 12 hour period and fail 80 to 90 percent (sometimes 100 percent) of combines. At least once I tried combines of Ice silk robes and caps while burning thru (at 250) almost 40 silks and didn't make a single item. Other nights I could do 5 to 10 combines and never fail.

It is all random and the period of influence to the random number generator due to "EQ LUCK" is a LONG LONG period. Waiting an hour, watching a movie, etc. is far too short of a period.

Long before the small brick to small pieces was in game, I needed small pieces of HQ ore which only drops from goblin janitor. I killed this guy every few days for nearly 6 months and no ore. People would say "oh it is 1 in 5 your just unlucky". Well I decided to perma camp him until I got the ore. I killed him 72 times in a row (he is 70 minute spawn) before he game me the "1 in 5" drop. I killed (for kicks) him another 9 times afterwards and got 7 total ores in 81 kills.

This is the normal EQ luck which is very streaky either good or bad. Trying to extract meaning without massive numbers of datapoints is sure folly.

Banazir (250 halfling tailor)

[bana-zir]

arg

BAH double post

[Wandor]

Unless your sample size is in the 10s of thousands with a definite trend indicating something other than the RNG is at work, then it's just the RNG at work. I have done hundereds of combines in SH and I have not noticed any weird failure trends.

Just the other day I did 60 combines in the Bazaar and only got 18 success making SR steins. The day before that I did 40 combines in SH and got 28 successes, but this doesn't indicate that the Bazaar < SH for trade skills, it indicates I had a lucky run in SH and an unlucky one in the Bazaar.

[Marteeny]

I have had good luck in PoK as far as skilling up.

I was around 195 in Baking, Pottery, and fletching.

Just doing a couple combines here and there while in the PoK, I got them all to 200 in no time. I would say no more than 40 attempts at each. (at least i skillup per 8 attempts). I know this was very lucky.

Heh, to finish pottery I got skill 198, 199, and 200 within 5 combines.


Marteeny
35 Enchanter
Vazaelle

BTW, He was complaining about skillups in PoK, not SH.

[Canto Wolfheart]

I made both my Robe of Haunted Dreams and Ice Silk Robe in Shadowhaven, both on the first try.
In short, your data set is far too small to reach much of a conclusion unfortunately. There was the same sort of thing comparing Shadowhaven or Katta and old world zones back when Luclin came out. And maybe way back in the day people were debating whether Qeynos or Freeport was better for tradeskilling. And it was luck either way =)