Trader Booted for Being Idle?

[Aethn]

It is not on SOE's end at all. It happens when you lag out or take packet loss, if you get a large enough drop in packets, you will lose your connection to SOE's farm. There is nothing SOE can do to help you with your own connection.

This just seems to be a Bazaar issue, but in reality you are probably having this same issue occur several times a night in all zones. You just recover most of the time since there is far less lag or data in zones NOT the bazaar. If you are on Dial-up, you might even have a "Timeout" impossed by your ISP.

In the end, this is has nohting to do with SOE's network, its on your end. You might want to find a better ISP or a faster connection if it really becomes a problem you cant stand anymore.

[Nolrog]

I disagree. It's completely at SOE's end. I never had this problem until the new login went on. I could be on for days and days without a problem. Now SOE updates their login server and all of a sudden my connection is bad? I'm sorry, I don't buy it.

[andyhre]

It has been happening to me a ton in bazaar mode ( sell when I am at work, and when I am asleep, which amounts to 18+ hours per day). It is entirely correlated with the implementation of the new log-in. I now come home to have been timed out and wake up to the same message pretty much every time.

[LadyAnnaAnna]

I have been talking to the GMs in the chat feature (NOT tech support) about this and they're kinda clueless on it. They're doing their best to collect information about it though, and that means something is happening that is not supposed to be, and they're trying to figure it out.

LadyAnnaAnna

[thrashette]

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I've had this happen at least 20 times while I was watching.

(1) The timeout is definitely from the server select screen, not the in-game zone. It's not your trader being idle doing it. What's weird is that you get the idle message immediately after you character is kicked from mid-nuke in karana.

(2) You get disconnected in the standard server crash manner. Your throughput goes over 10,000, your packet loss from Sony's servers goes to 100%, and your outgoing PL rises until you are dropped.

(3) It's not your local PC or the bazaar zone. I invariably have 4 computers in 4 different zones go ploof at exactly the same moment.

(4) It's not the intermediate internet or my ISP. I have a friend who is on my same local Roadrunner segment who has stayed happily connected while this is happening to me. Also, I have remained happily connected while he goes ploof.

(5) After you ploof your character gets stuck, sometimes for long periods. The server thinks that your character is an NPC. I've watched my character run bot scripts (he got points in the training hall, lol!) in PoK from another PC. This bug was introduced in the March 23 Patch of Doom and is probably unrelated to the newer, linkdead part.

(6) This LSD stuff started occurring after the same patch that introduced the mob walling bug. Going LD was reduced GREATLY by the patch two Tuesdays ago, but it is still there.

I can only theorize that the Sony servers are tossing the connection to certain IP addresses for some reason.

[Aethn]

(3) It's not your local PC or the bazaar zone. I invariably have 4 computers in 4 different zones go ploof at exactly the same moment

How can that not be on your end? 4 computers in 4 seperate zones go down at once. I cant see how that is not on your end. What that sounds like to me is you lost your connection to you ISP or your router failed and kicked all 4 units off at the same time.

(4) It's not the intermediate internet or my ISP. I have a friend who is on my same local Roadrunner segment who has stayed happily connected while this is happening to me. Also, I have remained happily connected while he goes ploof.

Just because you go offline does not mean everyone at your ISP did too. It could be related to just your line, or your SLAM on your street. I have 2 roomates, each of us has a seperate DSL line. There has been an occasional time when 2 DSL lines are up and running fine but hte third one is down for some reason.

[Yarb]

I have been noticing this and when it happened last night I logged back in to find a very active Bazaar, leading me to think it had not crashed. I checked the vendors and found that they had been reset so indeed the zone had crashed. Added bonus: I found about 60-80 small bricks of velium on the vendor

Yarb

[Grenoble]

I also think this problem is on SOE's end. This has never happened to me before, and in the 2 nites since the patch...bam, there I be. I have a more than decent computer and a cable connection, and I've been around when folks have tried to LD their way into a trader spot, and never been adversely affected.

But of course I know almost nothing about computers as to guess what would cause random LDs. I just hope they fix it so's I can sell my stoofs!!

[Kilauea Bacchus]

If it was on SOE's end, wouldn't it happen to everyone? There's a lot of routers between you and the sony servers /shrug

[Arghargh]

SOE doesn't control the routers between you and your favorite EQ server, but SOE does control the protocol. They can make the client/server connection more or less forgiving of lost packets, and long ping times. I've seen patches alternately force my trader to go LD every 8-12 hours, and then stabilize so my trader can stays on line for a week.

[thrashette]

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How can that not be on your end? 4 computers in 4 seperate zones go down at once. I cant see how that is not on your end. What that sounds like to me is you lost your connection to you ISP or your router failed and kicked all 4 units off at the same time

Only the connections to the Everquest game servers are severed. Other internet things continue without interruption.

Just because you go offline does not mean everyone at your ISP did too. It could be related to just your line, or your SLAM on your street. I have 2 roomates, each of us has a seperate DSL line. There has been an occasional time when 2 DSL lines are up and running fine but hte third one is down for some reason

Again, I don't lose connection to the internet during these interludes, only to The Rathe. A connection back to the Rathe can be restablished the moment that the client gets over its confusion at being dropped. If somebody's playing COH, they keep on playing COH through the drop. If a computer was already sitting at the EQ chat server, it stays at the chat server.

If it was on SOE's end, wouldn't it happen to everyone?

It seems to be happening to an awful lot of people, both on this board and in my guild. That might be a drop in the bucket versus 400k clients, but it certainly seems to be impacting the bazaar trader numbers.