Is Ripened Mango used in Tradeskills?

[Tejaye]

The Ripened Mangos that are Foraged in Plane of Growth and Wakening Lands......any idea if they are used in Tradeskills? If so, which ones?
The item is not tagged for Tradeskills, it has no known use...but I hear rumors it is for Tradeskills. Any idea.

[mewkus]

The item is not tagged for Tradeskills

I think you answered your own question.

[Tejaye]

Mango

I know it is not tagged....but I heard in bazaar chat that it was used in tradeskills, it just erroneously is not tagged. I was trying to clear up the rumor that's all.

[Twistagain]

I think you answered your own question.

Not to derail, but the assumption that all tradeskill-used items are marked as such is absolutely FALSE.

Also, the assumption that all items marked as tradeskill-usable actually ARE tradeskill-usable is either false or those missing recipes account for a fairly large amount of the 3000 undiscovered items.

[Froni Thunderpaws]

Trying out the seach function

Clicking that logo at the top brings me to the main site with a handy search function at the bottom of the menu bar on the left. Sticking in Ripened Mango pulls up the item info including a link for reverse lookup marked "Find recipes that use this item". Clicking that we get the message "There are no known recipes that use ripened mango".

That doesn't mean that there aren't any, but no one has found a recipe and reported one here at EQTraders. Ngreth and company put a lot of time into making the recipe database searchable and VERY VERY useful. (Thanks as always!!! /cheer) and Krazick and company has been extremely diligent about entering every detail reported on these boards as far as items and recipes (Again huge thanks and /cheer).

Gentle reminder that the search function is very very useful and can answer a lot of questions very quickly about items and recipes including stuff like trivials where to find components and stats. It gets updated very quickly whenever anyone find something new.

/em exalts THE EQTRADERS DATABASE IS EXTREMELY USEFUL!!!!

[Tricsun]

Can you take the color blue out of the sky?
Can you grab the mountains and put them in a pocket?
Can you sit down at a table with a knife and fork and try to eat a rainbow?
No! And such is Mango!

[Verdandi]

Originally posted by Twistagain
Not to derail, but the assumption that all tradeskill-used items are marked as such is absolutely FALSE.

Also, the assumption that all items marked as tradeskill-usable actually ARE tradeskill-usable is either false or those missing recipes account for a fairly large amount of the 3000 undiscovered items.

Out of curiosity, what are some of the items used in tradeskills but not flagged as such?

And many of the items flagged for use in tradeskills are actually for quests. In particular, many items that are combinable in quest containers are flagged for tradeskills. There are enough such items to be reasonably sure that they're flagged that way because of their quest container combines and not because they necessarily have an undiscovered tradeskill combine.

[Renjah]

Up until a couple months ago Arctic Wyvern Hides were NOT flagged. I bugged it and a week later it was changed.

[Suedyin]

I seem to recall that none of the fine steel weapons which can be smithed into ore in a forge are tradeskill flagged, nor are the rusty weapons which can be sharpened into tarnished versions in a forge.
Maybe there is a field conflict? Items flagged as weapons, for instance, cannot also be flagged as tradeskill?
Just a thought =)

[Turlo Lomon]

Ok, not saying this is the most reliable source, but according to a poster at Allakhazam, as of Feb 25th, 2004, this item was flagged as tradeskill usable.

[Doremi]

From Lucy as of today:

Ripened Mango

WT: 0.5 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Stackable: Yes
EQ item ID: 19141

No tradeskills flag.

[Brodybeard]

Out of curiosity, what are some of the items used in tradeskills but not flagged as such?

It may have been corrected, but the last time I checked, one of the glaze ingredients (Foul Smelling Liquid or Putrid Ooze) for the Ceramic Skull Of Decay was not marked as a tradekill item.

[splunge]

Im going to take a stab at a guess here.

Theres 1 bit of data that indicates what type of item something is for each item.
This bit of data is what is looked at for example when you use the /bazaar function and 'Select By Type'.
1 - 1 Hand Slash
2 - 1 Hand Blunt
3 - 2 Hand Blunt
etc..etc..
Since there is only 1 bit for this info, you can not tag something for 2 different categories.

Therefore, Fine Steel weapons cannot be tagged as tradeskill items because they already have the 1HS tag.
Same goes for Short Sword of the Ykesha and others of the Ogre Cultural(??) weapon smithing combines.

Food and drink must be a seperate bit of info because they CAN be tagged both as food and as tradeskill. (See a Misty Thicket Picnic for example)

a quick scan of my bazaar shows a few items that fall under the 'Combineable' category that arent Tradeskill tagged.
Quintessence of Knowledge (not really a combineable thing, its a reagent)
Ethereal sheets/rings/swatches etc (also not really combineable as the 'forge' you combine them in for Elemental/Ornate armor isnt really a forge, but a no-skill-check no-fail combiner. (Also, anything 'combined' solely in a glaze mortar (see Brodybeards reply just above this one), doesnt have a tradeskill flag, since theres no tradeSKILL involved))

These items are probably in the combineable category because some dev game em that tag. They may/should be better in the 'Misc' category.

...

Have you also noticed a lot of strange items in the 1 Hand Slash category?

Thats more than likely the data bit '0' or '1' which is the default. Any weirdo non-1HS item that shows up there probably didnt have that bit set properly by the person who created that item. That would also explain why you ONLY see weird items in 1HS, and not in 1HB, 2HS, Peircing, Bows etc....

[Kieroth_whiteleaf]

I would *bet* that (and I haven't done *ANY* research so could easily be proven wrong) the tradeskill flag is a different field altogether, since it was introduced comparatively late in game development (within the last year or so?). Given that things like drinks can have tradeskill flags (and their "type" flag ought to be "drink" rather than "1hs") I would bet that it's simply an omission when it doesn't occur in weapons rather than a database type conflict.

Just an assumption based on how similar systems have worked though.

SFG

[Thorvari]

Tradeskills is a different field than the Item Type field.

This is the Lucy link for the raw item data for Slice of Jumjum Cake:
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemraw.html?id=9655
If you look, it has an Item Type value of 14 (Food) and a Tradeskills value of 1 (used in tradeskills)

I think 1HS is the default item type, which would explain why so many non-weapon items have that item type.