Why does EVERY trade require foraging at higher levels?

[PhoenixZorn]

Almost every trade except jewelcraft requires either a foraging skill, or someone to forage for you to hit grandmaster. I am currently a ~150 baker and ~80 brewer, and can't progress any further in either skill without either getting a group to farm stuff of mobs in velious, or getting someone to forage all my ingredients for me.

What was Verant... and now Sony thinking when they decided to make almost every baking recipe after 150 skill to require some sort of foraged component?

There must be a way to remedy this situation, as I'd like to be able to collect these forage only items on my own being a dorf cleric. I don't have the time, energy or cash to level up a druid or ranger to forage my stuff for me, and I don't care to spend 20pp for a single piece in the bazaar.

Whoever thought it would be a good idea to make all fruits forage only should have gotten a nice dose of lead. My brewing skill is at a standstill because of this one simple fact... I am not paying 40pp for a stack of berries...

If anyone knows a way to get around the hump of 150+ baking and/or 80+ brewing... with a minimum of failures on combines, please let me know. It seems the only people on Vallon who are masters of multiple trades are druids, rangers, and the occasional enchanter with a druid alt.

[Moraganth]

Brewing can go to 250 without foraging anything... really.

Baking needs a few forages to do that, however, i've spent a whopping 200 pp in the bazaar to get veggies to go from 200-250.. druid friend passed me a few, and some fruit... but it's certainly not difficult to obtain the common forages.

Sony was thinking they actually wanted people to interact... i know, hard to fathom why, but there it is.

chanter... no druid alt; although my ranger (mule#7, or maybe he was #6.. they all blur together anymore) is.. um.. level 13 i think...

go forth and mingle

[Ndaara]

same reason nearly all tradeskills require an enchanter at some point.

as Moraganth said, you are no where near stuck on brewing. i do believe i got all the way to 168 brewing from store bought ingredients, as that was one of my skills pre-Druid. Maybe not. Maybe i picked up some druid droppings along the way. but if all else fails you can do the Dreaded Mino Hero Brews all the way to 248, then Kaladim Constitutionals to 250.

or Demi-Sec Champagne (if you have an enchanter handy) to 250 and give your successes to your friends for their Solstice Earrings.

For baking, if you spend much time in the bazaar or make friends with any druids or rangers, you can collect plenty of the foraged stuff you'll need. It's true some of us (me included) pass on our spare vegies in the bazaar for a whopping 20pp a stack, but there are plenty folks who sell for much less than that.

as a cleric, go do some Public Relations Work in GFay, land of the druids and rangers. offer buffages in return for a few foraged items. (i actually recommend NOT buffing with your best buffs for the little ones, give em too many HP and they think they're invincible)

even though i have a druid handy (two, if you count my husband's druid), i often buy foraged items in the bazaar when i need them. unless i'm really in the mood to sit around foraging all day.

i much more often wish i were an enchanter!

[Myrron]

Baking is storebought to 191, patty melts.

--Myrron

[Angahran]

what REALLY confuses me....

is how TINKERING requires foraged items and there is not one single class that gnomes can be that has the ability to forage!

You'd have thought that they would have learnt how to find the things they need to make their gadgets..... or better yet, built a 'Gnomish Foraging Device' *grin*

[Rissenn]

Brewing - Easily taken up to 248 using Minotaurs Hero Brew. There are also several other routes to take. I cant remember exactly what now, but I used storebought items to get to 200. I found the info under "Brewing" on this site.

Baking - Misty Thicket Picnic. Really, what you need then that is not storebought is vegetables and fruit. Look around a bit and you will find those items really cheap in the Bazaar. Not even worth fussing about.
Takes you all the way to 250. You will find the info under "Baking" on this site.

[Iannyen]

Enchanturz r still teh suck.

[kiztent]

Wack, wack, wack.

Maybe it's just resting and not dead yet.

[Balkin]

Brewing can actually go to 250 without foraging, and all store bought to 248.

248 to 250 needs a corking device (requires a blue diamond) and a few grounds spawns in Kaladim.

EASY!!! Counting the KEI's I bought, and not counting the corking device I had made, I got brewing to 250 for under 500 PP.

As someone else mentioned, baking goes to 191 on store bought items. Actually, if I recall, you need meat drops to do baking to 216 on Halas 10lb. Meat pies, but NO foraged items. So that's 216 without foraging.

After that, you need to forage in many places around the world, or buy ingredients from merchants (aka the bazaar, where people hawk their fresh produce for people to cook with) Hmm... sounds a lot like RL eh?

Just hit the recipe pages on the main site. You'll find what you're looking for.

[Itek]

Originally posted by kiztent
Wack, wack, wack.

Maybe it's just resting and not dead yet.

ROFL ....

Dang it Kiz i laughed so hard i thought my eyeballs would come out...

This Thread for solution to lack of forage skill

Please read ALL posts by me in the thread -and- _READ_MY_SIG_ before going off half-cocked.

Foraging is a pain. It's meant to be a pain. Honestly it's not THAT hard to get a forage bot up to 200 skill. And having a level 39+ taxi around can't hurt.

Guildie: I'm over in Dulak's Harbor, but I'd like to make the Akheva Ruins event.... but I, for some reason, don't have PoP yet.
Itek: Ok, lemme log in my taxi. Can pick you up in Gulf and port you to DSP and give you SoW.

(slight exageration, but you take my meaning)

[Rewde]

Like said above, do Patty melts to 191, all store bought. After that, you can do Anaconda and Griffon melts to 250. No foraging required in either, but you do have to go kill a few mobs in JP.

[eniamn]

most any of the pop meat drops take you to 250. halas 10lb pies require drops but no foraging to 226. patty melts to 191. fish rolls to 135.

brewing to 122 on fetid esscense in pok. fish grub and water sold on vendor.
to 151 on skull ale optional.
to 187 on shar vhal esscense. its a forage but there are also 28 groundspawn in shadow weavers per circuit.
188 faydwer shakers.
248 mino brews.

i recommend the fetid then shar vhal then minos for price. baking isn't easy to do without forage but possible. go fish some too. especially in storm. take you to 202 on them fish i think. i at 201 in baking as of last night with meat pies and 186 brewing from shar vhal. wanted to gm baking first. am a baker at heart and only level 42 so no aa for me yet.

[mjod_eagleheart]

hehe

This subject will have new life every so often as newer people come into the upper end of the tradeskill world (as I have) and discover this website.

Be it baking (191), brewing (190), or tailoring (164), I find that I need/want a lot of foraged items. There are ways around the skilling issue certainly, but some items you just want to make after investing a lot of time in the different skills.

And the bazaar gouging does not help the issue. It only takes a few people to buy foraged items cheaply (ie dominate the market) then attempt to sell back at unreasonable prices. I've seen outrageous prices on the enchanter wares as of late...

At one time (Velious era) I was in a well-organized high level guild, now I'm not. I don't have the time for that anymore. And I find my lack of foraging combined with the bazaar dynamics combined with lack of guild to be just another hurdle to overcome.

PS bazaar dynamics... nice little pun!

[Tinile]

There are plenty of PoP baking recipes that take you to 250, that do not require any foraging. My fave is boar chops.

[Kritta]

*chuckle* And here I thought EVERYONE had a pocket druid.