Where is Nemren Stonecutter?

[Liwsa]

MT

[Balkin]

I'm waiting to buy scroll's myself. He's the only merchant for the scroll, and for the velium smithy hammer as well if I remember.

I made my own tempers, because I have morals, and respect myself to much to stoop as low as exploiting CVT's like so many others. Kinda pathetic when you think about it... That so many have to cheat at EQ... And I won't buy from exploiters in the bazaar either. Are those the kind of people I want to hang out with in a virtual game? Guess not.

I've added a new quote to my Sig.

[Liwsa]

If you really really need the tempers and you find the vendor up buy them and destroy the correct amount that they should have cost you. You will know that you "paid" for them.

[Iannyen]

Yep. I petitioned AFTER I bought 90 enchant velium scrolls. I've had the velium and tempers rotting in my bank for over a week now. And I didn't "buy" a single temper. Oh, and I did link a "Hail, %t" to my server's tradeskill channel.

[cartier]

so when's the next patch? i've bought like 20k of velium in bazaar hoping to get smithing a little higher...

[cartier]

the hardest part of smithing these days seems to be camping bazaar fighting other people buying ingredients.

[Itzena]

Originally posted by cartier
so when's the next patch? i've bought like 20k of velium in bazaar hoping to get smithing a little higher...

Last patch was about a week ago so the next one will probably been in 3 weeks, more or less.

[Pootle]

Pootle, read again, he used the vendor to buy the scrolls. Thats perfectly find and shouldnt feel bad.

I was saying what i said because there are other tradeskillers held up needing scrolls, not just him.

But, he said in a later post that he did let his tradeskill channel know.

So i appologise!

[Kelaan]

I would have thought the real reason Nirem was removed was to stop people skilling up on Enchanted Velium Bits. They tried to make him NOT sell coldain velium tempers so you'd at least have to make your own (read: more hassle that it's worth to some people). So they just took him out since they don't want people doing the combine anyway.

I'd put money on the trivial being lowered or the recipe being significantly altered at the same time they put the vendor back.

Personally, I'm glad they're dealing with it, although I do feel sorry for the people who need Nirem for reasons other than exploiting a quest combine to raise smithing.

Huntress Kelaan
Forest Stalker of Aurora Noctum
The Tribunal Server

[Dunthor Warsmith]

Personally, I'm glad they're dealing with it, although I do feel sorry for the people who need Nirem for reasons other than exploiting a quest combine to raise smithing.

Mistletoe cutting sickles and Cleansed Breastplate are also quest combines. Do you feel skilling on them are exploits too?

(I don't mean this as a flame - I mean it as an honest question. I thought the high trivial on the ench velium bits was perhaps a poor choice in design, but far from a exploitable bug. I'm curious to try and understand the alternate (equally valid) viewpoint)

[Kelaan]

I used the term "exploiting" in the old fashioned sense of "taking advantage of something for ones own benefit" rather than in the EQ sense of "breaking the rules". As in "exploited the benefits of the situation", rather than "exploited a bug".

Kelaan

[Tinile]

Originally posted by Kelaan
I would have thought the real reason Nirem was removed was to stop people skilling up on Enchanted Velium Bits. They tried to make him NOT sell coldain velium tempers so you'd at least have to make your own (read: more hassle that it's worth to some people). So they just took him out since they don't want people doing the combine anyway.

I'd put money on the trivial being lowered or the recipe being significantly altered at the same time they put the vendor back.

Personally, I'm glad they're dealing with it, although I do feel sorry for the people who need Nirem for reasons other than exploiting a quest combine to raise smithing.

Huntress Kelaan
Forest Stalker of Aurora Noctum
The Tribunal Server

I highly doubt this, since a couple weeks ago, the clay vendor in thurgadin was doing the exact same thing. Selling clay for free. Being that clay is very cheap and sold all over Norrath, it wasn't as well known as this merchant. The clay vendor was permakilled until fixed in the next patch (which was last patch, same patch that broke Nimren). I do not think they are trying to mess with tradeskillers wanting CVTs or coldain hammers or the new enchanted bits. There is obviously a problem in thurgadin with merchants. I wouldn't be surprised if this happens to another vendor in the future.

[Iannyen]

I'm going to petition every single smith that got to 242 on Fine Steel. The trivial was obviously too high, and they exploited it.

(Not trying to be nasty, just makin a point....)

[Itzena]

Originally posted by Kelaan
I'd put money on the trivial being lowered or the recipe being significantly altered at the same time they put the vendor back.

Personally, I'm glad they're dealing with it, although I do feel sorry for the people who need Nirem for reasons other than exploiting a quest combine to raise smithing.

Trivial is reportedly the same on Test, and CVT is back for sale there at the normal price (but with a much, much lower sellback-to-vendor amount).

Your theory seems to be inaccurate.

[Sanna]

I'm gonna agree with the people who have mentioned the 'demand for expensive yet simple skillup routes' idea.

There are people with simply too much time on their hands. They have all the POP flags they need to do Aid Grimel, and they just want the skill necessary to get the earring/s. They have plat to burn to do it, too.


I'm gonna guess that the Ench Vel Bits are supposed to be the Expensive Route. I'd love to know from someone on Test... what's the sellprice of the Ench Vel Spell?


It's simple, requires a 'minimum' of farming mobs that seem to drop velium at a rather nice rate, and 2 storebought supplies (CVT and the spell). I don't think they're going to remove it, jack around with the recipe as far as components go, or nerf the trivial. I just think it's gonna be booooooty expensive.

Which means it's time for me to figure out how to work that Hollowshade War thing.....

-- Sanna