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    I am a foraging-addict. I've been called "Bouncy" by friends because when we find a private corner to sit down and talk, I will, at regular intervals, stand up to forage and then sit back down. I not only get a whole lotta stuff I need for my tradeskills (Baking 200, Brewing 188, Fletching 217, Smithing 181, Pottery 143, Tailoring 157, Jewelcraft 180) but I also turn a good profit on some of the foraged items and from some of the items I make with them (ex. Justice Fruit Pies, cost is roughly 4p each for the celestial essences, frosting, milk and dough, but I can sell them quickly and easily for 50p each.)

    Things like cockroaches, breadcrumbs, habanero peppers, and cinnamon sticks can be sold for a fairly reasonable price (2-3p each) and can be foraged in great enough quantities to make them profitable. Vegetables I sell for 20p a stack, which is a reasonable price for people who want to brew vodka or make MTPs.

    Lately, these profits have all been going to a fund my guild has started. They are sponsoring one person from our guild to GM in each tradeskill, so that they WHOLE guild can benefit from our tradeskiller's services. Anything our skillers can use, I put on the tradeskill mule, and anything they can't, I sell and put the proceeds into the tradeskill fund. We have made over 6k so far this way. Another way I have helped make plat for this fund is by brewing and selling celestial essence. I got the idea from a 65 ranger who hired me to make CE at 7p a vial--and he wanted 2500 vials! He knew he could make it for roughly 1.7p himself, but he said his time was more valuable than that and he had the plat to spare. I was fine with that...he basically funded 5 skillups via mithril arrows for me. Anyhoo, I make the essence and sell it for 5p a vial. Usually, I can sell a satchel full of the stuff in a single day...that's 1000p! I split the proceeds 60/40 with the tradeskill fund, so I recover my expenditure and make a little profit for myself, and make some profit for the tradeskill fund. Heady Kiola and Paeala also sell for a decent profit, though not as quickly as the essence. What also sells well is Coldain Velium Temper. It costs roughly 26p in Thurgadin. I can make it for around 10p. I can sell it for 20p in the bazaar, and save the buyer some plat. Again, I split the take 60/40 with the tradeskill mule to cover my expense making the stuff and make a little profit for myself.

    Anyhow, my point (and I do have one...)

    Eqtraders has been a GREAT help for me when I forage something new and don't know whether I should keep it for my own use, the guild's use, sell it, or dump it. However, I saw this linked at eqrangers.com and thought it was a pretty nifty thing too. It is by no means as comprehensive or well-organized as the supplies lists here at eqtraders, but it is sort of a one-stop shopping guide for those who might not be certain of where to look in the zone and skill listings for foraged items.

    http://members.shaw.ca/ceinwein/Foraging.doc

    It is obviously still a work in progress, as some of the information is incomplete, and the format is a smidge crude. However, with the appropriate shortcuts and links, it could be very handy for a quick referrence.

    One thing this list REALLY brought to my attention, though, was how many items didn't have a purpose, either as food, weapon, stat-giver, tradeskill component, or quest item. I counted at least 65 items which had neither a purpose nor could be consumed (some of these may have been duplicates, since I went straight down the list counting and didnt check how many of them were listed more than once.) I don't know how many macro-button/autoinventory foragers we have here (I suspect A LOT) but I, for one, find these "useless foraged items" to be an extreme nuisance when I have to go through my packs and dump stacks upon stacks of them. And I really have to wonder why they are even there if they have no purpose?

    Are these items which SOE had INTENDED to create a use for, then fell through the cracks? Are they put there to challenge us? I really rather wish they weren't there if there is not, and will not be, a use for them. Is this something to feedback to Maddoc about? Or should I just let it be? Have there been any remarks from Maddoc/SOE about these items and their purpose?

    Ambrya

    My apologies if this has been discussed before...I searched all the fora and couldn't find any mention of this problem.
    Huntress Ambrya Naturechild
    65th Wood Elf Ranger of Tunare

  • #2
    I think it is "working as intended". Just as fishing does not always come up with something useful. As my ranger, I, too, sometimes find it annoying I can't look for what I really want and ignore the rest, but it is rather like just picking up what you find on the ground, looking at it, and tossing it back to the ground if it is not what you want.

    I have heard about the /autoinventory, but, to not take a chance of losing something I really want to an overfull bag, I have no intention of using it for my ranger.

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    • #3
      Ceinwin,

      Thanks for this -- I saw it on the Glade recently and have yet to digest it. I sometimes "forget" to sit down to make it easier to get that next forage. There is a Cake song with the lines:

      He keeps what others throw away/He says that he'll be rich some day

      which i think of whenever I forage up a justice fruit while LFG in PoJ.

      One suggestion: you might want to make it clear that some items are listed for their first use (e.g., Gargoyle granite is listed as a brewing item for Granite Temper, which is true, but no one brews these except to smith with it or give/sell it to a smith).

      Other than that, I look forward to proofreading it soon and if I find anything missing, I'll post here.


      EDIT: I just realized the person posting is not the author. I'll post directly to him over at the Rangers glade instead.
      Last edited by andyhre; 10-15-2003, 06:56 PM.
      Andyhre playing Guiscard, 78th-level Ranger, E`ci (Tunare)
      Master Artisan (2100 Club), Wielder of the Fully Functional Artisan's Charm, Proud carrier of the 8th shawl


      with occasion to call upon Gnomedeguerre, 16th-level Wizard, Master Tinker, E`ci (Tunare)


      and in shouting range of Vassl Ofguiscard, 73rd-level Enchanter, GM Jewelcrafter, E`ci (Tunare)

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      • #4
        First of all, I'm glad you found the Foraging Compendium useful.

        It is a work in progress and there are some major updates coming fairly soon. I would not have posted it as raw as it is except that the topic of useful forages came up on The Ranger's Glade and I wanted to be helpful with what I did have.

        As for the "useless" items, there are a few things to remember.

        - Some of these sell for cash. Not much cash, but few other skills just hand you cash for doing nothing more than pressing the button.

        - I have not fully researched the Quests aspect of all the forages. While I have got some in there, I don't think this is exhaustive.

        - Even when I have researched this, there is always the significant undiscovered content that SoE always alludes to. Maybe something really is useful, but nobody has discovered the quest yet.

        - There is always the future. Judging from most tradeskill patches, the developers are fairly aware of what "useless items" are out there and will sometimes use them in their new creations.

        So just a few thoughts to relieve worries that Foraging is full of useless stuff. Hopefully my guide will help those who simply want to know whether to keep. destroy, or sell whet they find.
        >>==Ceinwein==>
        Foreststalker Huntress
        Heralds of Dawn
        Karana Server
        {Retired}

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        • #5
          Originally posted by andyhre
          Thanks for this -- I saw it on the Glade recently and have yet to digest it. I sometimes "forget" to sit down to make it easier to get that next forage.
          Sitting makes it easier to forage?

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          • #6
            NOT sitting.
            Andyhre playing Guiscard, 78th-level Ranger, E`ci (Tunare)
            Master Artisan (2100 Club), Wielder of the Fully Functional Artisan's Charm, Proud carrier of the 8th shawl


            with occasion to call upon Gnomedeguerre, 16th-level Wizard, Master Tinker, E`ci (Tunare)


            and in shouting range of Vassl Ofguiscard, 73rd-level Enchanter, GM Jewelcrafter, E`ci (Tunare)

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            • #7
              New version!!!

              I've made some big changes to the Foraging Compendium with a new look and much more information.

              The new version is alphabetical by item, and includes "end results" of foraged items. I'm also working on adding the prices vendors will pay for each item.

              Hope you like it!

              For those who liked the old Alphabetical By Zone version, it is still available at:
              http://members.shaw.ca/ceinwein/OldForaging.doc

              However, I will not be updating this version. So if you want the latest information, be sure to check out the main link at:
              http://members.shaw.ca/ceinwein/Foraging.doc

              Hope you like the new version.
              >>==Ceinwein==>
              Foreststalker Huntress
              Heralds of Dawn
              Karana Server
              {Retired}

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              • #8
                Hey Ceinwein, is there any chance you could convert it to a HTML file? I try not to download .doc files.

                Thanks

                Divine Comedies on Karana º Listen to my theme song º Slay the dragon to email me º Profile.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DeegerStormcrow
                  Hey Ceinwein, is there any chance you could convert it to a HTML file? I try not to download .doc files.

                  Thanks
                  Well due to the fact that it is currently a work in progress, I won't be doing this right away.

                  However, once I have it more or less "finalized" I have a friend who will do that for me. Should make it much easier to access.

                  So keep checking back.
                  >>==Ceinwein==>
                  Foreststalker Huntress
                  Heralds of Dawn
                  Karana Server
                  {Retired}

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                  • #10
                    Excellent! Thanks for all the work.

                    Divine Comedies on Karana º Listen to my theme song º Slay the dragon to email me º Profile.

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                    • #11
                      I had some from before the board change, mostly when I was working on LoY dyes:

                      Frequency sorted by item
                      Frequency sorted by zone
                      Item Info
                      Dark Elf Sage. Celestial Rising . Xev

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