markup from vendor minning

[eniamn]

i bought gargoyle granite yesterday off a vendor for 10pp. turned it into temper and sold for 111pp. other ppl were selling granite at 300pp. i was wondering if that was too much to charge or if 111pp is alright to charge if others charge 300pp.

luclin bazaar. just trying to soothe my conciense.

[Myrron]

You may get some more helpful feedback on Luclin boards/forums since all servers are different, but on Vazaelle I don't even bother with tempers/items in the bazaar. I vendor mine my own tempers (or forage them) and if there are none on vendors, I don't bother smithing. People on Vaz are selling the temper items for insane prices, like 300-500 per item, and the finished armor is selling for around the same or less. I know I will never even consider buying temper supplies for, say, more than 20pp if I can buy them off vendors for 10 (I'm not knocking your price by any means), but I say if your server has wealthy people trying to skill up smithing quickly, then sell tempers at whatever price you think is fair.

--Myrron

[Aethn]

I would charge whatever the market can bare. If they sell for 500pp, sell for 500pp, or 450pp to make a fast sale. Dont short sell yourself.

[Maevenniia]

Whoa, I find 500pp a bit expensive, these are not as rarae as some PoP components after all. Oh well, if people will actually pay that /shrug

Personally, I’ve been selling the components that I vendor mine for 25-50pp -- this way I’m compensated for my time (I’m a wizard but porting all over Norrath and beyond is still time-consuming) but tradeskillers can get components at a decent price.

If this is too low for your tastes, start at 500pp, if they don’t sell knock 25pp off the price every couple of trading sessions until you find a price people are willing to buy at that still nets you an acceptable profit.

[eniamn]

i think 111pp is as much as my conciense can bare. wouldn't have charged that much but really need pp. haven't upgraded an item in about 5 levels and have been trying to get 2k for the golden bracer the entire time. tradeskilling keeps eating it though.

[Aethn]

500 was merely an example from the poster above me. Frankly I cant give LDON smithed armor away.

Nobody wants it even at 200pp an item. Why would you pay even 200pp when you can go to any number of Vendors near Forges and buy backpacks full of LDON smithed armor sold to vendors for 30-90 pp.

The people who do want it just make their own for twinks or guildies. With the addition of the AG earing quest, Tradeskills are dead as a viable market. This happened with the Shawl quest. Low level items virtually died over night because anyone who plays more then 10 min a night wanted a shawl. So thousands of master tradespeople were created, thus choking off the low end market such as handmade BP and Fine Steel plate.

Now we see the same thing happening with te 150-220 trivial items. AG quest has forced people to skill 220+ in all tradeskills and be elemental flagged. What has happened is now instead of a dozen Grandmasters on your server for each skill, you now have hundreds. With these new people you see more and more high end armor for sale, ie elemental crafted armors.

Why would anyone buy a class cultural BP when they can save a few more plat an buy elemental Armor, or better yet for mere pennies pick up a Ornate Mold and create far superior Ornate Armor which has effects to boot?

No, Tradeskills as a viable market in Everquest is fading fast. With talk now of yet another multi layered tradeskill quest, we will likely see the last nail hammered into the Everquest 1 tradeskill coffin.

Lets hope Everquest 2 gives us traeskillers a reason to play again.

[Liwsa]

One thing they could do to make trade skill items more viable and wanted is add a few more LDoN slots to them to allow augmentation. Like maybe a slot 3 so you can add FT to caster gear.

[Velurian]

I can't say I agree with the sentiment that tradeskills as a viable market are dead.

Maybe your server is different, but it's not like everyone (on E'ci, at least) is walking around with a shawl and signet. Most of the people that I've met that did or are doing Aid Grimel would have been doing at least some of those skills even without the quest, and most that wouldn't have, mostly stopped doing tradeskills when they finished the quest -- which means that except for the actual items they use to skill up, they're not distorting the market.

It's natural that over time, there will be more tradeskillers, and more grandmasters, and that the market will become more crowded. It's especially natural that as nicer tradeskilled items become available (and we all want that, don't we?), more people will want to tradeskill. And that means that you have more competition.

But I certainly wouldn't blame it all on the shawl and AG quests.

And in any event, there's still decent money to be made on tradeskills, just not the killing that there sometimes has been. A couple thousand here on a fleeting quiver, a few thousand there on a Valorium Ring -- it all adds up. So at least to me, the "tradeskills are a dead market" dirge is a hard sell...

[Phabos]

But OF COURSE tradeskills are dead as a viable market. There is NO money to be made off ANY of them. To any visitors here, let me assure you that you will NEVER profit from tradeskills and there is no reason to start.

Move along now, nothing else to see here.

*quietly returns to counting his plat*


Phabos Aphsion
Drunken Miser of Brell
Tarew Marr

[eniamn]

brewing 329 heady kiolas made me 1k the other day. not an everyday thing to make money but thinking about doing ti again. need 2k for an item and only have 1500. forsee about 300pp or so expenses in the near future as well as the 200pp buffer i like to keep to vendor mine and random tradeskill a bit.