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  • #16
    Nolrog, please don’t make your own short beer when making Hero Brew. That just makes an already nightmarish combine all the more horrific. Short beer is sold on numerous vendors all over Norrath. Unless the barbarians hate you, the best place to do Hero Brew is in Halas. Everything you need, including the brew barrel, is in the same room. And I would suggest putting off making Hero Brew until you have no other choice. Here’s a guide I posted on my guild’s web page. It might be of some help.

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    Brewing is, in my opinion, the easiest and cheapest trade skill to grand master in all of Norrath, especially now that casks are stackable. The only time it even begins to get expensive is during the very last two points. There are numerous ways to raise any trade skill, brewing included, so if you want to try something different then by all means go for it. But this guide will get you to 250 in one of the most direct and cheapest paths currently available.

    0-122 Fetid Essence

    Fishing Grubs + Water Flask

    This has to be one of the easiest recipes, if not the easiest, in the entire game. You can buy both of these items in PoK. The fishing grubs are sold by a little gnome gentleman standing atop a porch across from the entrance to the “evil” section of PoK. And the water is sold by a lady just around the corner from him. The brew barrels in PoK are often occupied so you may have to buy several stacks of supplies and brew them elsewhere.

    122-151 Skull Ale

    Cyclops Skull + Short Beer + Spices + Vinegar

    This drink is a fun one to make because the graphic for the drink is a skull. The Cyclops skull can often be found for sale in the bazaar. I just bought one for 20pp. Or you can loot one from an undead Cyclops in South Karana. If you hunt for one be aware that the undead Cyclops cannot be snared or rooted, at least my level 51 druid was not able to do so. The skull is returned to you on both success and failure.

    OR

    122-162 Jumjum Spiced Beer

    Barley + Bottle + Hops + Jumjum Stalk + Spices + Water Flask

    If you don’t want to mess with obtaining a Cyclops skull, you can make spiced beer. There are more items to combine, but it still works. The jumjum stalks can be bought in either Rivervale or from a halfling merchant in the short section of Shadowhaven. But for some there may be faction issues. Have you hugged a halfling today?

    151 or 162-188 Faydwer Shakers

    Elven Wine + Gnomish Spirits + Dwarven Ale + Mead + Cask

    This is slightly more expensive than some of the earlier recipes, but its not too bad. And each success sells to merchants for about two gold.

    188-248 Minotaur Hero's Brew

    Short Beer (2) + Malt (3) + Water Flask (2) + Yeast + Cask

    This is it, the dreaded mino hero brew. Its dreaded because it’s a nine item combine, repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Most people consider this portion of brewing to be a nightmare, but I’ve made Halas 10lb Meat Pies so it’s not so bad by comparison. There is a LOT of clicking involved in making mino hero brew, but its still amazing that such a cheap recipe can take you all the way to 248 brewing. So if this is truly getting you down, try working on tailoring or smithing and you’ll be thrilled to return to brewing.

    248-250 Kaladim Constitutional

    A Strange Dark Fungus + Underfoot Mushroom + Fermented Yarrow + Soda Water + Celestial Essence + Bottle + Cork + Corking Device.

    The last two points are the most complicated to gain, as well as the most expensive. And if you have a brewing geerlok you really don’t need the last two points. A geerlok will give you +5% to your skill and the maximum skill the game mechanic allows is 252. So you can stop at 248 skill and not be any worse off for it. However, if I’ve worked hard to get all the way to 248 skill there is no way I’m not going to get my last two points. So it just depends on how anal-retentive you really are.

    If you do want those last two points you’re going to have to pick up some ground spawn and do some sub combines.

    There is a house with a small garden in North Kaladim. This is the same section of the city with the bank. Follow the path to the right of the bank, cross over a small bridge and make a jog to your left. The strange dark fungus and the underfoot mushrooms both spawn here, in unequal numbers, and respawn about every six minutes. There’s a stream next to the garden where you can practice your fishing or swimming while waiting for the spawn.

    Fermented Yarrow is a brewing combine. Yarrow + Water Flask, trivial <=81. Yarrow can be bought from herb dealers.

    Soda Water is made by combining soda and a flask of water, duhh. This is also a brewing combine so use a brew barrel. Remember the little gnome guy who sold you all those fishing grubs? Go talk to him again and he’ll be happy to sell you some soda as well.

    Celestial Essence is a poison combine, but its no fail so anybody can do it. I’m sure you can buy the needed items form other vendors, but I’ve found the easiest place to buy them is PoK. You’ll need to combine celestial solvent and scent of marr in a mortar & pestle. Everything you’ll need is sold around the barbarian fisherman standing by the pool of water in PoK. The dark elf directly across from the pool sells the celestial solvent. Another dark elf, in a room full of dark elves at the top of the stairs on the right, sells the scent of marr. And one of the other dark elves in that room sells the mortar & pestle.

    You can buy the corks in PoK as well. There a small shop around back of the dwarven smithing house, the one with all the forges. Take the stares up from the outside and you’ll find a gnome inside who sells corks, among other things.

    And lastly you’ll need to buy a corking device. These uses to cost several thousand plat, but the prices have dropped a lot. When I bought mine I paid 1k. I would expect that by now they have dropped even more. The device is always returned, except for one particular combine. And you’ll need this device if you want to make things like Grobb Liquidised Meat. So it’s not such a bad investment. And if you decide to make a brewing trophy you’ll have to use a corking device as well. Unfortunately, the corking device is consumed in the trophy combine whether you succeed or fail.

    That’s it. Get those last two points and your all done. You can now make drinks for fun and profit. Just remember not to drink while your trying to gain skill. Being drunk drops your wisdom and intelligence and you want one of them to be as high as possible to gain skill points as quickly as possible. Besides, they’ll be plenty of time to get drunk once you finish skilling up.
    Pait Spiritwalker
    63rd Season Vah Shir Shaman
    The Seventh Hammer

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    • #17
      That's some great info. Thanks very much. I had stopped making the Hero's Brew because of all the combines. I was brewing in the PoK, near the brew barrel, and couldn't find a vendor that sold the short beer, so I just made my own.
      Last edited by Nolrog; 09-25-2003, 10:28 AM.




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      • #18
        pok is horrible for skull ale. none of the vendors sell short beer. everyone else on earth does though. i could only find brew in thurgadin never the barrel so i went home to erudin to do skull ale. less than 30pp to master it from fetid esscense (about 6pp if i remember right which i prolly dont). made 2 backpacks worth. my friend got royally plastered and i am making 2 more stacks for a friend tonight and some 2x brewed 2x stout dwarven ale. hes a dwarf paladin got to get him drunk. have fisherman's companion if all else fails though. i am going to skyshrine for faydwer shakers myself but good luck getting faction there if you haven't been working on it already. thinking about the jum jum beer too though. i am at 191 baking so thinking about mtp's too. /shrug i just a tradeskill nut. i started getting ready for the shawl at lv 12 when i first saw it. some of us are masochists and some are crazy but us tradeskillers are fun to be with. my friends think so at least.

        i could have made an easy 4 levels in the time i took off from exping to farm for tailoring by quadding rockhoppers at 36. raising blacksmithing as the fs weapons drop and i convert them. good luck. would not recomend them to start with.

        Maker of Picnics.
        Cooker of things best left unidentified.
        "Grimrose points to the sky. Look! Up in the sky, it's a bird, no, a plane, no it's Picnic-Man. It's Emiamn, a mild mannered tradeskiller by day but daring handsome crime fighter at night. Spreading peace and joy to norrath with his mighty Picnics!"

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        • #19
          Why not just do Fetid Essence to 122 and then run to Halas and brew Minos the rest of the way? I did Minos from 122 to 200, and once my hand stopped hurting, it was well worth the few hours spent.

          I still recommend Baking, though.

          Phabos Aphsion
          Drunken Paladin of Brell
          (And Now You Know Why)
          Tarew Marr

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          • #20
            Don't do it!

            It'll break your bank account AND then it'll break your heart

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            • #21
              Phabos, you can certainly do Hero’s Brew from 123 to 248, but most people prefer putting it off as long as possible because of it being a nine item combine. The main reason I don’t like doing Hero’s Brew is because it becomes boring for me. I like making different kinds of drinks on my way to 250. Standing in one spot doing a nine item combine over and over and over again will get you there, but its about as exciting as driving across Kansas and watching the scenery.
              Pait Spiritwalker
              63rd Season Vah Shir Shaman
              The Seventh Hammer

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