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    I have gone thru as many topics as I can to educate myself on better fletching methods. One thing that stands out is the different stats. I see some rangers using wis or dex as a basis. Im a warrior with 223 fletching, and have heard various rumors that for warriors it is str that should be used ( ie raised to enable better skillups). I have also heard that str only modifies how successful you are at the combine, and to use wisdom for raising skill.

    Has anyone information on this? I raise all my stats just in case when I sit down for a session but I am curious to find out the truth.

  • #2
    Str only works with smithing, dex is for fletching. It's just easier for most rangers to raise dex than to raise wis (ymmv).
    As far as the second bit, only your dex/wis/int (whichever one is highest) affects skillups. Your skill is what affects successes.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by lonewylfe
      Str only works with smithing, dex is for fletching. It's just easier for most rangers to raise dex than to raise wis (ymmv).
      As far as the second bit, only your dex/wis/int (whichever one is highest) affects skillups. Your skill is what affects successes.
      Its not just your skill that affects successes. We ran some tests and found out someone with 250 skill and trophy and maxed out stats (str,dex,wis,int-all 305) can do 9 out of 10 250 skill trivial items and someone with just dex 305 did only 3 out of 10. This was in fletching.

      So there is a flaw and should be explained by someone from Verant.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TheGiantOne
        Its not just your skill that affects successes. We ran some tests and found out someone with 250 skill and trophy and maxed out stats (str,dex,wis,int-all 305) can do 9 out of 10 250 skill trivial items and someone with just dex 305 did only 3 out of 10. This was in fletching.
        Is your sample large enough to indicate something or was it the luck of the range on a small set of combines?

        I.E. What you're saying would carry more weight if you can document this across several thousand combines instead of just several dozen.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by TheGiantOne
          Originally posted by lonewylfe
          Str only works with smithing, dex is for fletching. It's just easier for most rangers to raise dex than to raise wis (ymmv).
          As far as the second bit, only your dex/wis/int (whichever one is highest) affects skillups. Your skill is what affects successes.
          Its not just your skill that affects successes. We ran some tests and found out someone with 250 skill and trophy and maxed out stats (str,dex,wis,int-all 305) can do 9 out of 10 250 skill trivial items and someone with just dex 305 did only 3 out of 10. This was in fletching.

          So there is a flaw and should be explained by someone from Verant.
          Something is very wrong with your test is a GM Fletcher is getting 30% success rate on a trivial item.
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          • #6
            His test was him and a friend of his doing 10 combines of elemental bows each person, supposedly.

            Not NEARLY enough to draw a conclusion from, IMO.
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            • #7
              10 combines is hardly a fair sample. Anyone can have a bad RNG day.

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              • #8
                Bad days can happen, ive failed 5 stonewood bows in a row once, but i have also had days when i made 5of5. Its just the luck of the draw sometimes :?

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                • #9
                  It is pretty random. Get your dex/int/or wis high, with the easiest of the three to raise your target (for a warrior it would probably be dex)

                  Don't go nuts, because it probably won't make much difference as in the skillup comparison above.

                  Nothing affects success but your skill. For some weird reason that wis affecting success rumor just won't go away with people in game. Many of them still swear by it and no amount of mentioning this site or what the game makers themselves have said will change their mind. You'll still hear of an Enchanter Jeweler who says they are putting on their wisdom kit before doing combines, that cracks me up.


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                  • #10
                    Benefits to 255 plus stat

                    If there a benefit to having your highest stat over 255? I have been told there is not, or it would not be fair to people without PoP. And I was curious if there have been any tests done.

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                    • #11
                      Couldnt hurt to try it out, I would think it would be a benifit

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                      • #12
                        I'd have to question it as well, 10 combines each with two characters does not a scientific study make.

                        If that had held true over say a 100 combine per character attempt, then I would give it more weight.

                        I've actually done some semi scientific testing on Culteral Wood Elf bows, and I see little to no effect on success rates with or without maxed stats. Perhaps this could be an issue with just PoP bows, but I would think it highly unlikely.
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