Dex/Wis/Int? Which of these is better to have higher?

[valans]

Currently I have 290 int unbuffed and can get up to 232 dex and 207 wis with buffs. My question is referring to skill ups, should I bother trying to get the others higher or just go with my Int and not worry about dex and wis.

[lonewylfe]

Only one stat matters, and that's whichever of the 3 is the highest.
If you have 290 int, I wouldn't worry about trying to raise it.

[Ranger_Lahru]

/agree with the above, the skillup check goes off only 1 of these stats, the one being the highest taking precedence. I do not think there is a secondary 'dice roll' for skillups, only the success roll against your skill.

[Keqen]

And - correct me if I am wrong, but the highest skill that matters is 255 in any of these?

[Pinbin]

I have found in general, that when I have more than one stat maxed that I get more skill ups. Such as usually I am maxed at Dex as the primary, and STR as my secondary skill check. I have also found that my skill ups have come more frequently as I am 63 now and my caps are now 270. I do not have any data to prove this, just something that I have noticed.

[Taushar]

And - correct me if I am wrong, but the highest skill that matters is 255 in any of these?

Only if you are 60 or below. If you are 61 and above and have PoP, you can bring the stats up much higher and they do contribute to skill ups.

Taushar

[Saraban]

http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31

[Jannelle Silverthorne]

I have found in general, that when I have more than one stat maxed that I get more skill ups. Such as usually I am maxed at Dex as the primary, and STR as my secondary skill check.

Exactly what skill are you working on that uses either Dex or Str as a skill up check?

Smithing: Int/Wis/Str
Fletching: Int/Wis/Dex

There was some talk of Tailoring using Dex but I'm unsure if that ever went live. I'm not aware of any other tradeskills that actually have a tertiary stat for skill up checks.

Not that having as many stats as possible maxxed will hurt anything even if it doesn't help.

[Kinladar]

I know that in theory any of WIS/INT/DEX is supposed to increase your chances of a skill up.

I've tried max Wisdom, and Max Dexterity more than once until I hit 250.

Max Wisdom post 202 only gave me 1 skill up per every 2 stacks of Shadow Tipped Acrylia Arrows combined on average.

Max Dexterity my average was closer to 1 skill up per stack.

Obviously there are more variables at work here than can be accounted for, how far along was the skill, trivial levels etc...

But my experience, and since I play a ranger and typically have a higher dexterity stat than wisdom anyhow, max dex worked better. Cheaper too since I didn;t need to keep 2 sets of gear, just hit on my shaman friends for max Dex.

[Taushar]

I know that in theory any of WIS/INT/DEX is supposed to increase your chances of a skill up.

I've tried max Wisdom, and Max Dexterity more than once until I hit 250.

Max Wisdom post 202 only gave me 1 skill up per every 2 stacks of Shadow Tipped Acrylia Arrows combined on average.

Max Dexterity my average was closer to 1 skill up per stack.

Obviously there are more variables at work here than can be accounted for, how far along was the skill, trivial levels etc...

But my experience, and since I play a ranger and typically have a higher dexterity stat than wisdom anyhow, max dex worked better. Cheaper too since I didn;t need to keep 2 sets of gear, just hit on my shaman friends for max Dex.

Well, I don't think you have enough to prove a data point either way. When I was doing it I had wisdom of 310 and doing acrylia arrows, I was getting 1 point per about 15 combines. I didn't do with same dex since it will be very difficult for me to get 310 dex at this point. I may believe the data is you have done over 10000 combines each or more then maybe numbers may have some impact. Other than that, it's mostly contributed to RNG.

Taushar

[theRiov]

shouldn't be that hard to get close to that level dex (obviously no innate enlightenment but you're clearly level 63+ so you could do 270)

Nights Dark Terror = 130 Dex
Focus of the Soul = 70 dex
Speed of Valon=33 Dex
=233 total dex buffs.

[Kinladar]

I intend to make a couple new toons and experiment with this a bit. Your wisdom is higher than my Dex is even now, since I would top out at 265 dex. Those extra points into wisdom would certainly seem to tip the scale.

To have an honest comparison, lower your wisdom to 255, since that would be a more real world test, that was the highest I could get my Dex at the times I worked my fletching up.

[Tryll Rapture]

This must be different from the last time I checked any of these boards for this discussion. I remember that it as wis or int, whichever was higher, was the attribute used for all trade skills for skillups. Then each trade skill has a secondary attribute that was used to figure out the success rate. For fletching this was dex (for blacksmithing it is strength and so on).

Now if you take into account that you (well I do) usually get more skill ups with more successes then this could be why your dex was helping.

I also had thought that this was question given to Sony at one point at one of the fairs (remember it in the tailoring forums) and that they verified it was true but that some of the secondary attributes for some of the trade skills were not working correctly yet.

Was I dreaming?

I think the only way to test this is to make a couple of toons and make sure that your int and wis are very low (like under 100) and then bring just dex up and try it. Would like to see the comparison in that. Posting what your dex/wis/int for all tests would be great.

Of course, you would need to have an enchanter over level 60 because they get all the money nowadays. When are they going to stop that with KEI pools or some such. I can almost taste a nerf for this one. Now instead of everyone making druids now they are making enchanters. Oh well, that is another topic entirely.

[Jannelle Silverthorne]

This must be different from the last time I checked any of these boards for this discussion. I remember that it as wis or int, whichever was higher, was the attribute used for all trade skills for skillups. Then each trade skill has a secondary attribute that was used to figure out the success rate. For fletching this was dex (for blacksmithing it is strength and so on).

Now if you take into account that you (well I do) usually get more skill ups with more successes then this could be why your dex was helping.

I also had thought that this was question given to Sony at one point at one of the fairs (remember it in the tailoring forums) and that they verified it was true but that some of the secondary attributes for some of the trade skills were not working correctly yet.

Was I dreaming?

Short answer, Yes. You were dreaming.

What they did state was that ONLY your Skill Level + Skill Mods affect your success rate.
The higher of Int/Wis determine your skill up rate. Exception being that Str can be substituted for Smithing and Dex can be substituted for Fletching. They also said they were considering adding tertiary stats to the other trade skills but hadn't at the time.

[Taushar]

I intend to make a couple new toons and experiment with this a bit. Your wisdom is higher than my Dex is even now, since I would top out at 265 dex. Those extra points into wisdom would certainly seem to tip the scale.

To have an honest comparison, lower your wisdom to 255, since that would be a more real world test, that was the highest I could get my Dex at the times I worked my fletching up.

I would be interested to see how this would work. Just for point of interest, I did fletching from 1 to 200 with Wisdom of 255, did 201 to 255 with Wisdom of 290 to 310 range.

Taushar