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    Did research on my chanty and got my trophy when I was about 280ish... I have since dinged 300 and am close to maxing trophy. I found the trophy very easy to make...

    So...

    When my ranger who was perma camped in Kelithin reached 300 on fletching, thought I had nothing better to do than go get a fletching trophy for him. Well... not one to read too far in advance... got the quest and did the first 3 or 4 real quick. Actually had some taelosions stones on me so that was easy. Then I get to a bow that requires a drop from a murk... no big deal...none in bazaar. Drat.

    But then a grandmasters fletchers knife? Jeesh, tried an artisan's seal a while back and remember it was expensive as heck... OK, just money and chanty is 280 on JC anyway.

    Then we start seeing tinkering combines? Some bow cams... ? And further down the laminating devices and such? You have got to be kidding?

    And wouldn't you know it... made some drakespike arrows last week, and haven't seen girplan feathers in a long time... so don't know when I can make those.

    Why is this trophy such a butt buster... three different tradeskills needed at higher levels... Research, one of the toughest tradeskills around... till very recently... was very easy. Whats up with this?

    Edit: Forgot to ask... did the level I started each trophy have anything to do with the difficulty?
    Last edited by pilot; 07-26-2008, 07:54 PM.

  • #2
    Yea I made the same mistake not getting the expert trophy task at 299 skill for tinkering.The master tinker trophy requires 5 or so Feran tenticals!:-(

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pilot View Post
      did the level I started each trophy have anything to do with the difficulty?
      Absolutely.

      The first level (freshmen?) trophy quest is in essence make a few things using store bought components. The higher your skill is when you request the trophy task, the more brutal the task is to complete. Seems to be the high end quests are just a much a test of will as they are a test of skill

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      • #4
        Just a note that if the bow cams you're referring to are standard bow cams, they can be purchased from fletcher supply vendors. Just because they can be tinkered doesn't mean you have to.
        Your brain has performed an illegal operation and will now shut down...

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        • #5
          It is the nature of the skills.

          Some skills have no to very little interdependencies. Some have many.

          When making the trophies there was no way I could change that fact in the time available.

          And the way I view it is... if the skill itself has interdependencies, then proving your skill shows your ability to deal with the interdependencies, and thus are part of getting a trophy.


          Fletching is not the only one with interdependencies. Research happens to have none... baking needs smithing and pottery, tailoring needs smithing, tinkering needs high smithing... etc.
          Ngreth Thergn

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn View Post
            It is the nature of the skills.

            Some skills have no to very little interdependencies. Some have many.

            When making the trophies there was no way I could change that fact in the time available.

            And the way I view it is... if the skill itself has interdependencies, then proving your skill shows your ability to deal with the interdependencies, and thus are part of getting a trophy.


            Fletching is not the only one with interdependencies. Research happens to have none... baking needs smithing and pottery, tailoring needs smithing, tinkering needs high smithing... etc.

            I see... just seemed strange as a wood elf I leveled up to 300 with next to no difficulty... ingenuity or special farming... just a little smithing for some shafts and some heads... and then it shocked me with all the other stuff. (didn't make my first bow till I popped the trophy quest)

            Incidentally I have run across a couple spells that require some shammy lovin with highland mountain sludge or some such thing.


            It also buggered me to think that something like the drakebone drakespike arrows require drops from very specific mobs and zones... where as the research drops needed are on the universal drop list (level dependent and caster mob dependent too of course) So it made those spells very easy to make... had them in the bank, but the drake spike arrows I will definately be doing some special farming in zones I never go in...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pilot View Post
              I see... just seemed strange as a wood elf I leveled up to 300 with next to no difficulty... ingenuity or special farming... just a little smithing for some shafts and some heads
              wood elves and Karana worshipping elves are teh only ones to have this easy way to skill up... try doing it as an ogre.

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              • #8
                I would also suggest trying to skill up a researcher from drops alone. In theory they can drop form multiple places, but the drop rate is painful for skilling up.

                You know you can always shop the bazaar and ask friends and guildies for help with finding the parts you need.


                Gorse

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                • #9
                  Did fletching to 205 with a human...

                  I did my research with drops only. Did 0-220 or so with strickly spell combines till the binding powder came out. Binding powder made it much cheaper with not having to clean the hide with expensive solutions... But gettting the binding powders took time. Mostly got them from bazaar, vender diving or guildies. I have a good stock of ornate and rune powders now since at level 70 I can't use them...without begging essences off a higher level toon.

                  And yes, I received a lot of help from guildies... I make a lot of spells for them and all I ever ask for is for them to drop any research drops in guild bank for me.I absorb all other costs.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pilot View Post
                    Did fletching to 205 with a human...
                    fletching to 268 is easy for everyone. shadowtipped acrylia arrows

                    it's the AFTER 268 that gets difficult/expensive for everyone except the Karana worshippers and woodelves.
                    Try taking that human to 300... you will quickly see the difference.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Elyssanda View Post
                      fletching to 268 is easy for everyone. shadowtipped acrylia arrows

                      it's the AFTER 268 that gets difficult/expensive for everyone except the Karana worshippers and woodelves.
                      Try taking that human to 300... you will quickly see the difference.
                      Ya, I know. Thus the goofy toothy grinning emote.

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                      • #12
                        Thought I'd update the whole trophy experience. I spent the bulk of the last two weeks skilling my gnome up on tinkering so I could make a laminating device. That was interesting. Think I gave it a go in the 170s and made two off the first two attempts...

                        Flubbed up making a desiccated bow when I did the bow staff with just one laminating roller instead of two... that cause me about a days problem. But once I had that done it was cake. I now have the trophy and am up to 60% leveled...making mithril arrows.

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