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    How far ahead of me should my fletching trophy get?

    I have the expert one and it was 33% evolved when I got it (skill of 265). I am now a skill of 287 and the trophy is already 98% evolved. It is so far ahead of me it is rediculous?

    With 415 wisdom and failing on average 1-3 out of 40 combines of a 335 trivial why am I seeing skill ups on the 1 per 130-150 combines yet the trophy evolving on the 1% per 10-12 successes?

    Fletching skill ups take FOREVER to get.

    Just hit level 6 Master Fletching Trophy and still only 287 skill.
    Last edited by Aldier; 04-06-2006, 04:25 PM.
    Shawlweaver Sphynx on Cazic Thule
    Master Artisan Aldier on Cazic Thule

  • #2
    This is actually pretty normal. I have leveled up 3 different trophies to the master version and all 3 of them hit level 6 while I was still at the 280 range. one was at 278 the second was 283 and the third was 280 on the nose. it seems that there are also others that report similar results so my best assumption is this is normal.

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    • #3
      This means that the skill ups are not coming as often as needbe in my opinion.
      Shawlweaver Sphynx on Cazic Thule
      Master Artisan Aldier on Cazic Thule

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Aldier
        This means that the skill ups are not coming as often as needbe in my opinion.
        It's just the differece between a set formula (trophy) and a RNG formula (skill). The results will be different for everyone - for every skill - when comparing the two.
        Sunburnt Dmize - 80 Druid - D-Ro
        300 - Tailor +15%, Smith +12%, Fletcher +12%, Brewer +12%, JC +12%, Potter +12%, Baker +12%

        Phrump Eatsogres - 32 Gnome - D-Ro
        300 - Tinker +15%
        300 - Researcher +12%
        300 - Tailor +12%

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        • #5
          I would much rather have the Trophy beat me, and get to the next level early, thus giving me the earlier +% bonus, than have it behind my skill.

          Skill ups are still random, and something you have to deal with, my chanter is 286 skill and I've been going around 150 per skill up and my trophy is ready to ding. I look forward to 286 +12%, coming soon.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gorse
            I would much rather have the Trophy beat me, and get to the next level early, thus giving me the earlier +% bonus, than have it behind my skill.

            Skill ups are still random, and something you have to deal with, my chanter is 286 skill and I've been going around 150 per skill up and my trophy is ready to ding. I look forward to 286 +12%, coming soon.
            I agree with that, up to a point. The irritating part, at least approaching 300, is that as I understand it the trophy will not begin leveling towards level 7 until I actually ding 300. I am at 291 right now, and my trophy is 91% evolved, but I got my trophy before they came pre leveled for you skill past the 50 point mark at 267-ish. It is not going to be as bad for me, but I still expect to do 300+ combines to reach 300 after my trophy levels. It would be nice if those applied towards capping my masters.

            I see how it could be a problem with people starting with low trophys and leveling them far beyond their skill, and I suppose that is what it is supposed to prevent. at ~1,000 succesful combines per level though that isn't going to be an issue until after 200 skill anyway.
            Xodar - Tribunal server
            Bhur Gcairde
            Blacksmithing 285 M3 +8%, Baking 269 M3+8%, Tailoring 262 M3+8%, Fletching 300 M3+12%, Brewing 255 M3+8%, Jewelry 300 M3 +12%, Pottery 300 M3+12%

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            • #7
              fletching is only about 550 SUCCESSFUL combines to level from 6 to 7

              Alliance Artisan
              Proud owner of Artisan's Prize.

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              • #8
                Actually, I believe it depends on what you're combining to get the trophy skill ups. It took me 500 exactly using Mithril Champion Arrows (335).
                Bolwyn Whipstich - Celestial Navigators (Maelin Starpyre)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by b0wner
                  Actually, I believe it depends on what you're combining to get the trophy skill ups. It took me 500 exactly using Mithril Champion Arrows (335).
                  I got my new fletching trophy at skill level 282 a couple of weeks after PoR launched. Now I am approaching 300 skill, 294 at the moment, and I fear that my trophy will be far from leveling to level 6.

                  Do I have any other options to get it to level 6 other than doing a bunch more non trivial combines? Can I just destroy it when I get to 300 and then go thru the whole trophy process again and get a new one that starts at level 6?

                  Baldary

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                  • #10
                    Your trophy will skill up at accelerated rate when you hit 300 and it's not level 6 yet. Fletching is one of the easier trophy to level up with about 500 combines rather than 1000+ like other trophies.

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                    • #11
                      Don't forget that 6->7 is easier in most (all?) cases than 5->6. While 6->7 is only about 500 combines for fletching, 5->6 is 1000 or more combines. Once you hit 300 it will go 11 times faster, so 1000 combines would only be 91. If your trophy makes it to 50% by the time you get to 300, expect around 50 more combines. You do have the option of destroying it and doing the master task to get a level 6 trophy(or even destroying it now and getting an expert trophy again, pre-evolved to match your current skill) . So it's your choice, do whichever is easier for you.

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                      • #12
                        It seems to evolve quicker when you use non-vendor bought stuff (which I think was mentioned my someone before). My master trophy evolved 3% over the course of making 12 of the 402 trivial bow staves for the Druzzil bow.

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                        • #13
                          That's not an increased rate, its pretty much right on target for doing 350 trivial (capped down from 408) combines as opposed to the cultural 335 trivial combines.

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