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    Hello all,

    Are any of you fellow fletchers out there having any problems selling your higher end bows at all? I am very fortunate to have gone 1 for 1 on the Blessed Faydark Thunderbolt at a score of 203 with geerlock. Now that I have this terrific bow, it seems that no body wants to buy it. I am on the Morel-Thule server, and the average going price is about 14 to 15k. I have tried to stay within this amount, and have /auction out in the bazaar, and no buyers. A few people have dropped the price down to ridiculous levels, and it seems that they too have a problem getting the bows sold.

    All it seems that I get are people wanting to trade a few trinkets and some rusty daggers for the BFT. Nothing that is a real serious offer. Do any of you have these issues? What are some of the best ways to try to market this bow and the others like the Nightmare?

    Thanks for your insight.

    Jessail

  • #2
    I fear that what happened was that many folks bought up the first wave of bows which came out of PoP at the rather high prices that they were going for and now find that they can't afford to upgrade again. Those who can afford to upgrade are dumping thier old bows at dirt prices and usually have the resources to simply aquire the new one from the mob itself.
    Cigarskunk!
    No more EQ for me till they fix the crash bug.

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    • #3
      Selling bows.

      I am not having any trouble selling the bows I make. Since the price of BDs has fallen to 450 on Tunare, I figure 9000pp is a fair price for a BFT which takes me on average 4 BDs. I usually sell within two to three nights in the Bazaar.

      For Nightmarewood Compound, I am selling at 5000pp. Since I basically get the drops for free, I look at this as 5000 profit. (My tinker is not high enough, but for 1000pp I can get the parts combined for 3 bows). These also usually sell withing two to three days.

      I am not getting rich, but Fletching is supporting my tailoring and smithing habit.

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      • #4
        I've seen that things priced over 4-5k generally take a while to sell once they've been available on the market a bit. With fair prices, everything will sell eventually. Try to avoid the temptation to lower your prices repeatedly (assuming they are reasonable to start with) to make things sell, you just drag down the market in doing so.

        It might also be that there isn't much easily available cash in the planes, and many folks are broke
        Aabidano - Phantasmist
        Phurbi - Savage Lord
        Kelea - High Priest
        Veeshan

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        • #5
          Nightmarewood bows killed BFT market.

          Why pay 9k or more for a BFT, when you can buy the arguably superior nightmarewood for half that?

          And the only people for whom the nightmarewood isn't generally better are those who can't make full use of it due to rec/req levels. Many people don't want to pay more for a lesser quality bow that they will outgrow when they get to around lvl 55ish.

          This is especially true, as *most* people lvl55 and under can't afford the BFT anyways.
          Maena Bower
          Grandmaster Fletcher of the Bazaar
          Fennin Ro

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          • #6
            Superior?

            Range and resist are a lot better on BFTB!

            And let me tell you, on a pvp server, you can shoot wizards and be out of their range, it's a LOT of fun
            Tocap Val'Dor
            Vallon Zek

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            • #7
              Aye, and BFT has WIS too, nice for Rangers and Pallies
              Adman D`Ecossais
              Wood Elf Ranger
              Protectors of Slyph
              The Nameless

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              • #8
                Notice the "arguably" superior? Nightmarewood does more damage.

                Yes, the BFT has nicer anciliary stats (other than AC, but most that can use are probably at the AC soft cap), but for I'm standing here and I want to kill that thing over there with arrows, the nightmarewood is better. *most* that can use the BFT are rangers. Few warriors worship Tunare, Few rogues worship tunare, however quite a few paladins do. Basically, the market for BFT has become primarily Paladin only... and let's face it, buying a good bow is usually not at the top of a Paladins shopping list. Something to do with that 75 archery. (unless it's been raised some?) They're far more likely to pick up a great range item with that 10-15k, rather than spend it on a bow. Whereas the nightmarewood can be gotten substantially cheaper, to the point where it doesn't seem like such a big expense.

                As for PvP uses, well... probably 90% of us aren't on red servers, so they don't really factor into why we can't sell BFT's. And from what I understand, the range of nightmarewood + blessed mithril is enough to keep you out of AoE range, and that's all the range that's required. So while you may argue that the BFT is a superior bow, and, in some cases, it may very well BE a superior bow, fact remains that the nightmarewood bow is why the BFT market has all but died. (well, that and saturation of what market there is...)
                Maena Bower
                Grandmaster Fletcher of the Bazaar
                Fennin Ro

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Maena Bowyer
                  ...*most* that can use the BFT are rangers. Few warriors worship Tunare, Few rogues worship tunare...
                  Very good point, didn't think of it

                  That makes this (essentially) a wood elf ranger bow, most of whom can probably make one themselves.
                  Aabidano - Phantasmist
                  Phurbi - Savage Lord
                  Kelea - High Priest
                  Veeshan

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                  • #10
                    That makes this (essentially) a wood elf ranger bow, most of whom can probably make one themselves.
                    Not based on my experiences. Most rangers are not bothering to crank up their fletching high enough to have reasonable success on a BFT. Then again, I'm one of those whacky Tunare worshipping rogues, so who knows.
                    Osprey
                    Deceiver
                    Luclin Server

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                    • #11
                      I think you missed my point...

                      My point was that mos* of those who can *use* this bow are rangers... and at lvl 60, the bow is often one of the primary forms of damage for a ranger. Meaning the ranger is *generally* going for the better dps bow, and to heck with the other stats. (PvP against wizards appearing to be an exception...) For most rangers, the nightmarewood is *definitely* a better bow than the BFT. Or will be when they are high enough level/aaxp. Most of the higher end rangers I know who *were* using BFT's *upgraded* to a nightmarewood.

                      Basically, my point was that the BFT has become a High elf Paladin bow... but that not many high elf paladins are particularly interested in bows.

                      Well... that and twinking. BFT's are the bow of choice for lvl 20-55's.... But they *usually* don't have 10k to spend on a bow....
                      Maena Bower
                      Grandmaster Fletcher of the Bazaar
                      Fennin Ro

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                      • #12
                        Hm. I believe you - I've never deeply explored the mysteries of bow selection for a ranger. For the other classes it's just a pulling tool and it's nice to have one that gives stats when not in use.

                        One of the things that *used* to be great about the BFT was that it was the best bow you could hope for, provided you weren't a ranger and could actually use it. The thing is that when a mob drops a good bow, it always goes to a ranger (as it should be). This bow was great for those of us who wanted a good bow, but were never going to see one from a mob.

                        Enter PoP, and nightmarewood - the bow for the rest of us.

                        Ah well. It was nice while it lasted. I still carry my original BFT for the extreme range, but generally leave my primal bow equipped for the stats. (It was going to rot if I didn't take it. I always get a chuckle when it procs on a pull.)
                        Osprey
                        Deceiver
                        Luclin Server

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                        • #13
                          As a 65 ranger and 250+trophy tunare fletcher, heres my 2c...

                          I have AM1. I just hit 65 so now im gonna work to am2 and 3.

                          I carry 2 bows with me.
                          Blessed Faydark Thunderbolt is in my Range slot most of the time. (More HP, resists, wis etc)
                          Twisted Longbow is bagged and comes out when i /disc Trueshot. (better ratio) Afterwards, it goes back in my bag.

                          Our guild is presently hittin ST (not woken) and I will be getting a Primal bow any day now. I think Primal will be replacing both as my main Range slot bow with T-bolt bagged for the resists and the Twisted being handed down.
                          Splunge the Insane - Former Test Server Inmate
                          Splunge (Reborn) - Hunter of Lightbringer

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                          • #14
                            Maena only has one correct point, Nightmare Bows did slow down the BFT Market. I hope that you don't play a ranger and try to argue that a Nightmare Bow is even close to superior than a BFT. Most Rangers including myself will NEVER trade out 70 distance, more mana/hp, and resists for a measly 30/36 vs 30/38 . Lets face the facts, how many Rangers actually play until you see the full stats at lvl 61 ANYWAY ? Yes there are more starting to, but rangers are not very common 61+. If a ranger did sell his BFT for a nightmare bow, then it goes to show why 95% of everyone thinks that rangers are dumb as H3!!. But that is exactly why they have their opinions, due to a huge majority of people don't play the ranger class worth a crap. Not trying to hurt feelings here, but in the end game svs/hp = god to ranger and those that understand this will be one of the ones watching as the crowd yells "RANJA DOWN"

                            In short, I believe that I have used most good tradable bows available atm and from my own exp. the nightmare bow falls behind 3 other bows for total performance.

                            1. Twisted
                            2. BFT,
                            3. ( 30/38 with flurry of peebles proc 50dd)
                            4. Nightmare bow
                            ***note: Nightmare graphics are superior than the rest***
                            Elder TREEBENDER
                            {65 lvl Storm Warden}

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                            • #15
                              Treebender,

                              The point I think you are missing is that there is a larger market for the Nightmarewood Bow than the BFT due to the Deity restriction and the price range.

                              As a Karana Worshiping, Half Elf Ranger, the BFT is worthless to me. And as Maena pointed out, many Warriors and Rogues are not Tunare followers either. Factor in the price of a BFT versus the rapidly falling prices of Nightmarewoods, and I think you'll find more people are going the Nightmarewood route than with the BFT. Especially when there are so many other items you can use to make up your saves and HP.

                              As for Rangers going post-60... I know many on my server, Vazaelle, that are 60+ and climbing. And all the Rangers I know are excellent at playing their class. I've learned a lot from grouping and raiding with them. And as Splunge pointed out - one thing I have learned is that VERY few Rangers carry a single bow. There are so many situational needs that most Rangers will carry two or three bows and use the one that is best suited for the situation.
                              Buchalter Iceraven
                              Ranger Extraodinaire
                              Master Fletcher, Potter, Tracker, Forager and Fisherman
                              Vazaelle Server

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