LDoN Bows

[RiffRaff]

Just a quick point about the new bow staves. (Sedgewood)

Everyone seems to have taken the in game notes at face value.

All bows made to date and discussed on these boards are being made with cams etc.

No one seems to consider the good old fashioned Hemp String Bow. Considering that the staff material drops for free why not try this.

I did and found that the result is not trivial at 180. I forgot to get the stats though.

So for those looking for a bridge, what is the trivial on the bow staff itself?

I haven't been able to find another group going into Miragul's so I dont have any more material to test with. My skill is now 191 from Class 1 Steel Point Arrows, but as soon as I can I will attempt to determine the trivial for the staff.

I post this hoping that someone with greater access to materials will solve this puzzle for me.

[Krazick]

When a DB Entry Person gets a chance, a Checklist of all the possible Sedgewood Bows will need to be made (See Below), the items entered, the basic recipes entered, and the restringing recipes entered.

There should be roughly 27 different Sedgewood Bows:

(9 Rough Bows)
Branch + Silk -> Rough Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Linen -> Rough Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Hemp -> Rough Sedgewood Recurve Bow

Branch + Silk +1 Cam -> Rough Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow
Branch + Linen +1 Cam -> Rough Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow
Branch + Hemp +1 Cam -> Rough Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow

Branch + Silk +2 Cams -> Rough Sedgewood Compound Bow
Branch + Linen +2 Cams -> Rough Sedgewood Compound Bow
Branch + Hemp +2 Cams -> Rough Sedgewood Compound Bow

(9 Carved Bows)
Branch + Silk + Whittling Blade -> Carved Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Linen + Whittling Blade -> Carved Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Hemp + Whittling Blade -> Carved Sedgewood Recurve Bow

Branch + Silk + Whittling Blade + 1 Cam -> Carved Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow
Branch + Linen + Whittling Blade + 1 Cam -> Carved Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow
Branch + Hemp + Whittling Blade + 1 Cam -> Carved Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow

Branch + Silk + Whittling Blade + 2 Cams -> Carved Sedgewood Compound Bow
Branch + Linen + Whittling Blade + 2 Cams -> Carved Sedgewood Compound Bow
Branch + Hemp + Whittling Blade + 2 Cams -> Carved Sedgewood Compound Bow

(9 Shaped Bows)
Branch + Silk + Planing Tool -> Shaped Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Linen + Planing Tool -> Shaped Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Hemp + Planing Tool -> Shaped Sedgewood Recurve Bow

Branch + Silk + Planing Tool + 1 Cam -> Shaped Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow
Branch + Linen + Planing Tool + 1 Cam -> Shaped Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow
Branch + Hemp + Planing Tool + 1 Cam -> Shaped Sedgewood 1-Cam Bow

Branch + Silk + Planing Tool + 2 Cams -> Shaped Sedgewood Compound Bow
Branch + Linen + Planing Tool + 2 Cams -> Shaped Sedgewood Compound Bow
Branch + Hemp + Planing Tool + 2 Cams -> Shaped Sedgewood Compound Bow

[Ceinwein]

The trivial for the Sedge Bows will be 212 for all bows up to those utilizing 2 cams, which will all be 235.

Remember that the bow uses the highest component trivial. In actuality there is no trivial for the "bow" itself. Just one of the components that make the bow.

Since the Sedge bowstaff is confirmed trivial at 212, all the bow combinations that utilize it will have a trivial of at least that much.

Since 2 cams are confirmed trivial at 235, all the bow combinations that utilize them will have a trivial of that.

Hope this helps.

>>==Ceinwein==>
Forest Stalker of Heralds of Dawn
Karana Server

[Rollieh]

question your source for the confirmed 212

as a lvl 206 fletcher i dont skill up from using hemp againt this sedgewood branch


i spent nealry 2 hours earlier in the zone and foraged up 12 of them so i will no doubt be trying 1 and 2 cam combos soon too

the damage is 22 and the range 150 and the delay was sixty something but i forget the exact figure

i do know its over 60 but below the darkwood / hemp bow delay.

[Rollieh]

as i said before im lvl 206, i cant skill from the standard or 1 cam versions but can from the 2 cam version....



the base hemp sedgewood bow is 22/62/150

all sedgewood bows have a range of 150 regardless of cams being fitted unlike darkwood


a silk 2 cam planning tool sedgewood bow is 17/39/150


those are the fastest/weakest and slowest/strongest
sedgewood combinations possible

[Krazick]

No matter how much we might like to "predict" what the stats on an item might be... Sony invariably tworks something around either on purpose (to confuse us) by accident. To keep things straight, I much prefer to take just the actual KNOWN stats that folks see, rather than applying any predictions like:

all sedgewood bows have a range of 150 regardless of cams being fitted unlike darkwood

Therefore, please provide the individual item stats on items YOU actually HAVE, or have the Link from. Please do not "extrapolate" what an Item should be like.

Thank you.

P.S. All the basic Sedgewood Bows (27 of them) and their basic recipes have been entered. No one has yet responded to requests to attempt re-stringing the bows.

[tindiyen]

they CANNOT be restringed.... I made a batch all with hemp out of habit and now I gotta hope they fix the restringing sigh..
18 combines brought me from 207 to 208 on the double cams... rough shaped and carved 2 cam were all not trivial at 208 if that helps anyone.

Stats since I dont see posted

all with hemp strings compund bows

range 150

carved is a 20 , 52
shaped an 18, 43
rough 21,56


Tind

[Krazick]

These DMG, DELAY and RANGE attributes applied.

[Rollieh]

Originally posted by Krazick
Therefore, please provide the individual item stats on items YOU actually HAVE, or have the Link from. Please do not "extrapolate" what an Item should be like.

if you notice i made the best / most expensive combine and the lowest cheapest combine which were both 150, you trying to tell me that if i make a lesser combine it will provide more / less range...... i think not

at this stage i have also made 1 camed and also used the whitling blade on several sege combines, they all yeild 150 im telling ya

It isn't that 'logically' it should be any different. I am just stating that when people enter data, mistakes can happen. And can be missed. I know I have made mistakes entering data here... and go back and correct it when found.

I would just prefer to have each item made, and the stats verified. It could be that when the Sony Employee entering the information about the bow into the game database made a mistake that was NOT caught. So that some combination of bow has a range of 155... or 15... and if we get the ACTUAL stats, we can point out the boo-boo to Sony and get them to fix it.

[Ceinwein]

LDoN Bow Trivials

Confirmed by myself today.

No geerlok utilized.

ALL Sedgewood Recurve Bows are Trivial <202

Rough Sedgewood 1-cam Bow (Hemp) is Trivial <202
Carved Sedgewood 1-cam Bow (Hemp) is Trivial <202
Shaped Sedgewood 1-cam Bow (Hemp) is Trivial <202

Rough Sedgewood Compound Bow (Hemp) is Trivial >206

Obviously, the earlier reported data that Sedgewood Bowstaves were trivial <202 is incorrect.

I'm going to be really interested if the Compound bows do end up trivial at 215 as reported. That would mess with the "formula". I'll let you know as soon as I get some more staves together.

Unfortunately, I was selling my products back to the merchant. Like an idiot, I did not record stats on the bows.


>>==Ceinwein==>
Foreststalker of Heralds of Dawn
Karana

[andyhre]

Sadly I didn't check this board agin but I can confirm that at 202 I made

Branch + Silk -> Rough Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Linen -> Rough Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Hemp -> Rough Sedgewood Recurve Bow

Branch + Silk + Whittling Blade -> Carved Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Linen + Whittling Blade -> Carved Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Hemp + Whittling Blade -> Carved Sedgewood Recurve Bow

and

Branch + Silk + Planing Tool -> Shaped Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Linen + Planing Tool -> Shaped Sedgewood Recurve Bow
Branch + Hemp + Planing Tool -> Shaped Sedgewood Recurve Bow


All 9 of these were trivial at 202.

I have all 9 of them for stats purposes, and I will post them in the database thread.

[Krazick]

Trivials updated to here.

[tindiyen]

compound bow trivial 215

during my current skill up set I stoped at 214 made a shaped sedgewood compound bow..silk string was not trivial then stopped again at 215 was trivial.

Tind

[Ravenchaser]

Shaped Sedgewood Compound Bow trivial is <222

Branch +hemp +planing tool +2 cams ~> got you can no longer advance making this item. im currently sitting a 222

[Ceinwein]

I did some experimenting on Sedgewood trivials by advertising for fletchers of various levels and getting them to do combines for me (thanks all those folks on Karana that helped). I also levelled up to 215 on Sedgewood.

Sedgewood Recurve Bows (no cams) were all trivial at 191.
Sedgewood 1-cam Bows were all trivial at 191.
Sedgewood Compound Bows (2 cams) were all trivial at 215.