Lewena TAKE FIVE!

[Brodder FoamyMugs]

Time for us to retry Lewena...grab a cheese grater and use that for a bit of relief on your noggin while we figure this quest out!


Coallate old posts- trim out nonsense and let's get back on track...

[KanadWinterstorm]

Only partially on topic, but it bears reposting I think.
Short list of names/ids of unknown drinks I've been holding onto:

5511 Screaming Vengeance
5512 Purifier
These two are in a large hole, a nether some twenty numbers wide. I imagine they're weapons, but anything that looked like a drink is included here. Closest items are Soulfire and an axe, but the gap is mighty large.

8399 Fiery Red Fluid
sandwiched in between a click regen herb and the trueshot longbow. was here from looking for Hot Sauce, but it could be her fav?

12600 Dreadland Dry Porter
12601 Black Wine
12606 Felwithe Falls Water
Another hole here, with kunark vendor drinks and food (Cab Pale Ale, etc.) on the positive end and the rogue elemental armor on the negative.

13049 Free Ale
48 is Rabbit Meat and 50 is Giant Rat Ear. Beats me where this fits in.

19191 Burning Skull
19199 Soulbearer Dark
These are in the block of Brodder brewing recipies. Hints, please

31856,'Dwarven Keg
It's in a block of clicky illusion items so I figure it's an illusion dwarf GM item.

These are from an old parse of items I had from the emulator project, if you wondered. No guarantees as to the validity of my information, but none of these are in the lucy database and there are item not found pages under their numbers. Something to work on, if you're feeling suicidal.

If we still wanna work on the mug/stein angle I have a list of those too, but posting it will just cause undue clutter :P

[Ursawraith]

Originally posted by KanadWinterstorm

31856,'Dwarven Keg
It's in a block of clicky illusion items so I figure it's an illusion dwarf GM item.

This assertion is 100% correct. it is given out as a service award to seasoned Guides.

[splunge]

Its time to put some sort of recepie in game, instead of this silly taunting.

You should not be forced to go to a seperate web page for information or hints to finish an in-game quest.

Every known drink available in-game has been tried.
No more data has been found.

Either the quest is broken, or unfinished.

Unless the recepie drops from a so-far-not-killed mob, possibly a denizen of shadowhaven, maybe even the annoying elf herself, then i dont think this should be given any more lip-service. We are all sick to death of hearing about it.


This is my *opinion*.

[Ursawraith]

Originally posted by splunge


Unless the recepie drops from a so-far-not-killed mob, possibly a denizen of shadowhaven, maybe even the annoying elf herself,

Well Lewena herself doesn't drop the recipie, I got tired of her mocking me with the hint of a quest I killed her. Nothing on the body.

[Garndart]

confirmation

Ive read over 500 post on at least 2 boards on this quest.....

That being said I would like some kind of confirmation that this quest is actually implemented and working.

Brodder / Tanker / whoever at SOE who reads this board. Can you log in and do the quest. A) verify that quest works. B) verify that what you need to hand in can be made,bought, farmed foraged.... or all of the above.

Why i ask this is this reeks of the Loyalist shield from katta where
the quest wasnt fully implemented and a certain mob didnt spawn. It seems broken people have thrown everthing at this including the kitchen sink. Now if its working I think that this is great a super tough quest. But i would bet one of my trade skill trophy's that this quest isnt working. When you get as much human brain fire power thrown at this as this has had andstill dont solve it the past things like loyalist shield,original fiery defender, vex thal entry key, etc etc etc point to it being broken.

[KanadWinterstorm]

Hi there ____, care to bring me a drink? If you bring me my favorite, I will tell you a secret.

It's only super tough because our only hint is Lewena's hail text. Brodder is the one who gives us the "new ale" anagram clue and then people go haywire trying to give her stuff. The old thread had her being given all the essences, the blood wine from the burning rapier quest, and really crazy stuff that could never (should never?) have been used in a luclin quest.

This is taunting us like the sewing needle recipie was... and is probably equally unsolvable (hq bits and steel bits? jar of acid? smithing hammer? honestly...)

It'd be different if we had an in game hint, but people (myself included) have been scouring SH for something, anything that looks like a recipie and nothing.

[KyrosKrane]

I spent a huge amount of time and effort on the Brodder's Revenge / hot sauce fiasco. I spent even more time trying to tie in the recipes to Lewena. I got burned on both counts.

One of the first assumptions I posed to Brodder regarding the new ale / Brodder's Revenge search was whether he had tested this recipe and it was live in the game. He indicated that he had, and I went with that. From his shock upon finding the real recipe, it's obvious that he had in fact not tested it.

I have less time to play nowadays. I am no longer willing to carry this torch. I will not get involved until either a developer indicates that the quest is tested and functional; or they indicate that new NPC's or NPC text has been added with further clues; or someone here posts concrete progress of some sort or other on this quest.

[Brodder FoamyMugs]

You're Wrong Kyros I had tested it immediately after the big Tradeskill patch nearly three years ago...
I was told the recipes would likely change, but I ran around with several stacks of Stormguard Rootbeer, Brodder's revenge and Double Brewed Double stout dwarven ale for a month or so after, clicking them to make people wonder...

When diaries came out BR no longer worked as it had before.
I couldnt get nagafen spices any more. nor would BR work- I was told some old recipes got canceled to make room and would be later re-implemented- such as Hot sauce, chili, meat pies, BR, and several of my beverage quests were being reviewed and adapted.

So sorry to burst your bubble, but between the NDA, and changes at SOE and in programming whims of devs...I did say, what I knew would work might not anymore, and had to go off clues and stuff SOE allowed me to retain.

My bond is that, I didn't break the NDA and the final recipe I was given was in no way close to what was discovered on test.

BR is supposed to use a garnish and hot sauce as it is a hangover cure akin to a bloody mary with a Dwarven kick to it.
It was supposed to blast drunkeness fog out of a character...but instead it gets you really really drunk...go figure.

Don't you hate it when your ideas are wrong? Well so do I, and I am sure the dev's had to make some short cuts to get some things live and adapted them sans the background I had or Yak had in these brews. (to see how some of my brewing quests were bastardized is another).

I always said, "don't read too much into what I have posted" but I was analyzed word by word, phrase by phrase anyway, that's not my fault.

I provided clues from my own notes, what I had made before, and what had worked for me.
The original BR was Dwarven Ale, Whiskey (vodka was substituted here as a placeholder by Yak), veggies, (garnish was to be added later but cross recipe usefulness items were not in DB at that time), Aviak Egg (looted or foraged), Spices (as placeholder for nagafen spices or hot sauce) and a cask.

that worked as Dwarven ale + vodka + veggies + spices + egg + cask for the few months after the main trade skill bit. Then it stopped working. When Scars of velious went live (and diaries went live).
The bit about brodders revenge quest n clues were removed from my diaries as were other quest clues and walthroughs (Test of Hate/Elven Dark Spy quest).

I wasn't told what changes were going in and what else was in secretly...

Dwarven whiskey was provided in Thurg Pubs...but halfings and dwarfs had their own versions...
All the schnapps recipes I had using superior gnomish spirits were changed to something sillier.


I am a writer, creator, visionary, and most of all a dwarven dreamer, I've done what I can to make EQ more fun for tradeskillers and like Den Mom, we do what we can, within the limits that bind us.

And communication black outs and NDA's that we honor are why we are who we are.

Fell BURNED, sorry matey, not my fault.
Want to help, great, if not, go sulk in a corner.

Now who's got my pretzels! I'm in a mood for a nash and some ale! BAR WENCH! SERVICE!!!




Eidt splleing Rerors~

[Tinile]

I understand they gave you an NDA, but why didn't you ever say that you tested them once and made them, but couldn't guarantee that the recipe was the same. You never said it directly, in fact you evaded the question several times, when we asked you if you verified the recipe in game. Most people read what you wrote as gospel. I feel a little used about that and have no desire whatsoever to ever give Lewena anything ever again.

[Brodder FoamyMugs]

I was asked to not confirm or deny any recipe's status in game.
But I could provide clues. And provide round about formulas of the recipes as I knew them as they were purpoted to be similar in nature...the deviations weren't so minor after all, something I had no control over.

[KyrosKrane]

I'll concede that it wasn't your fault, Brodder, that recipes got changed, and I honor your commitment to your integrity. Were I in your shoes, I'd likely have done (or tried to do) the same as you have. I didn't mean to suggest you intentionally led us astray, but in the end, it was a case of the blind leading the blind.

Unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that none of us have any real clue how to help out Lewena. It also doesn't change the fact that I personally don't have the play time to commit to this search.

A few months back, we were promised new NPC's or new NPC text with some clues or suggestions on how to proceed with the Lewena quest. To my knowledge, those have not surfaced. Our one guide (Brodder himself) is guessing just as much as the rest of us; he just has a richer background to draw on.

As I said, this time I prefer to wait until we have some concrete proof that this quest is live, functional, and completable. I wish you luck in the search.

[Maevenniia]

Until it is confirmed that the quest works, AND that hints have been added, I am not starting another Wild Goose Chase.

And after all the effort, the hair-pulling, the pleading with Lewena to enlighten us, the quest reward had better not be 5 coppers and a rusty sword. I want a portable still or brew barrel, thank-you-very-much!

[DeegerStormcrow]

The reward (if any) will probably not be a portable still unless the drink she wants is vastly expensive with a very high trivial (IMO, anyway). So I wouldn't expect anything more than a minor reward.

I understand everybody's frustration. I gave up on BR, Lewena, etc. a while ago. We over analyzed Brodder's comments because that's all we could analyze. Starving men will tear moldy bread apart in their haste to eat it

That said I'll guess the devs are frustrated too. We might be missing what appears (to the devs) to be a very obvious clue. It's no fun to create something you think is clever only to find your target users getting mad at you.

[KanadWinterstorm]

As expected, she doesn't want any of the 5th anniversary drinks.