Other trade skills for baking.

[Xenephex]

I'm fairly easily confused by multi-part recipes and sub-combines. I'm trying to sort through what I need in terms of other tradeskills for skilling up baking - hopefully to 250 eventually.

I have been gathering components for, and plan to do, patty melts, some Halas meat pies and then MTP's.

I'm trying to balance this in terms of what is required for the recipes, how costly a failure is, and how difficult and costly it is to skill up. I'm also trying to make sure I understand what it is I will have to make with those other skills for my baking.

Here's what I have so far - I would appreciate corrections and any other feedback.

Brewing - You have to do a 162 triv combine for the MTP's and you will need multiples of these. Since brewing is cheap to skill up, I'm thinking you should aim for at least 188 to 190 on brewing. As far as I know the jum-jum spiced beer is the only thing you need from brewing?

Smithing. As best I can figure, I will need a number of implements which I should only need one of:

Cake Round
Pie Tin
Dairy Spoon
Filleting Knife
Non-Stick Frying Pan
Skinning Knife (for tailoring)

And then a number of steel bonings. I've already skilled up a smith to 100, which is relatively cheap and easy, but I'm thinking I could probably have been ok with a skill in the 60's or 70's for the bonings.

Pottery - Although this is easy to skill up, as best I can see, the only thing I really need from pottery is enough ceramic linings to make the smithed implements mentioned above. It seems that it would be easier to just attempt the ceramic linings from skill zero until I have a few than it would be to bother to skill up. Am I correct about the linings being the only thing I need from pottery?

Tailoring - this is the one I'm most up in the air about. Although you have to do a couple of repeated combines (woven mandrake and picnic baskets), tailoring is a hassle to skill up, unless you use the woven mandrake and picnic baskets to skill up on, in which case you will probably end up with all the finished product you need by the time you skill up.

I'm not sure how costly the mandrake is. Although it wouldn't be all that difficult to get a few stacks of spider silk and skill up your tailoring beforehand, I guess I'm thinking that unless the mandrake is very expensive, it probably just makes more sense to get to 26 with patchwork and then let the skill-ups happen as you work on the woven mandrake (or maybe make sure you take it all the way to 66 before you start on baskets to cut down the failures).

As far as I know the woven mandrake and picnic baskets are the only thing I need from tailoring.

Please let me know what I've left out or mis-stated and give me your opinions on required levels for the various other tradeskills.

Thanks in advance.

[Tinile]

Don't forget that you can make the baking utensils with either smithing or pottery.

Patty melts require non-stick frying pan, plus store bought ingredients.

HMPs require a dairy spoon, mixing bowl, filet knife and pie tin. Farm wolf and mammoth meat, rest is vendor.

Neither above recipe requires another skill except for the utensils.

MTPs require dairy spoon, mixing bowl, file, and cake round. You need to tailor the picnic baskets which trivial at 76 and the boning trivials at 37 smithing. The beer requires brewing and trivials 162. The mandrake isn't that expensive and is extremely easy for skill ups. Plus you will use it later. I skilled up my enc's tailoring with the baskets and used them on my druid's push to 250 baking.

Sounds like you had most of the info correct, just forgot about pottered utensils.

As someone that just got to 250 baking, I hated HMPs. They absolutely stink! MTPs are much better then HMPs. I suggest going straight to MTPs or finding different bridges after patty melts. Obadah truffles til 202 are fairly painless if you can get mushrooms. I did a lot of PoP baking recipes over 200 for skill ups. Find jord meat in bazaar and add a clump of dough or boar meat with garnish and spices. Both are very easy to combine. If you don't mind celestial essence, justice pies aren't bad either. If you can forage and are over 46, I highly recommend some quality foraging time in PoJ. Candied roaches til 202 then use bread crumbs with storm salmon (fished in PoStorms) til 216 and then the justice pies.

Hope this helps and gives you some other ideas.

[Doebi]

Another option for this misc. baking implements and non-baking items is to just buy it in the bazaar.

Depends on if your goal is to eventually work on all tradeskills, or just baking.

If what you want if baking skill, it may be a better use to time/effort/plat to just buy some of the stuff and resell when you are done.

[Rewde]

Having just recently hit 250 myself, also throw in a few anaconda and griffon melts when you can get the meat.

As for the mandrake root, I think I have been paying about 4pp each for them with max CHA, so that makes for 8pp a shot. Depending on your cash flow, skilling on the weaving is not really the way to go. Though, if you can find the woven mandrake root on a vendor, it is more affordable to try skilling on the picnic baskets, and the success will give you the baskets you will use later.

Good luck in getting to 250.

[Xenephex]

Don't forget that you can make the baking utensils with either smithing or pottery.

I saw that - but it appears that the trivs are higher for the pottery versions. I figured if I smithed them it would eliminate another possible reason to have to skill up on pottery.

Another option for this misc. baking implements and non-baking items is to just buy it in the bazaar.

Doh! - I didn't think about that. Playing on test server, I'm not sure how available they would be but I never thought to look. Good point.

As for the mandrake root, I think I have been paying about 4pp each for them

Ow! I had heard they were kind of expensive but I didn't know it was that expensive. That's probably going to send me running for EK to get some tailoring points.

Thanks everyone.