Question about Griffon Meat

[Ruatha]

Hi! /wave

I'm Ruatha, a 56th level Gnome Warriorette on the Brell Serilis server. I'm currently trying to GM Baking and I just hit 190 skill yesterday. (I hit 190 with 55 combines left to go on my Pinemyer Pasta, and thought "Well SURELY I'll get that one final skill-up at some point in the next 55 attempts!" GUESS AGAIN, PALLY! *sigh* But I digress...)

Anyhow, my situation is this:

I'm a gnome warrior. So foraging isn't an option. I don't have any druid or ranger alts, and no desire to create one. So, again, foraging isn't an option.

This leaves me with stuff I can either buy on my own or loot from the rotting carcasses of my own kills.

From looking over the Recipe section, and from talking to a friend who's a GM Baker (and who can forage, the lucky bugger), he suggests Griffon Melts or Griffon Casseroles or whatever (I'm prolly getting the names wrong 'cause I haven't had my coffee yet).

ANYHOW.

My question is: Do the griffs in the Karanas drop griffon meat? Or is it only in Jaggedpine?

Sorry for the rambling post. Blame it on Naturally Low Gnomish Wisdom(tm).

[Caela]

Just Jaggedpine griffs drop the meat...

But sometimes you can luck out and find some on vendors.

[Trakeen]

Griffon meat... mmm tastey

I've had pretty good luck finding it in the bazaar. Some people have resonable prices, and now for the way off topic portion of my thread.

How exactly does a piece of land play EQ? I could understand if you were Jaxom or Alleson, but Ruatha?

Maybe a different reference.

[Quichon]

I got lucky and found a stack and a half of griffon meat at a vender in the Bazaar (the one you get the trader's satchels from near the nexus entrance), so I am saving them for when I get to that level. Right now I am at 135 (take a *wild* guess how I did that...) so I am trying to screw up my courage and attempt to enter Jaggedpine via the Gnoll Port that I have heard so much about that is located in BlackBurrow. Once there I shall purchase my nonstick frying pan stuff, all the cheese I can carry, and head on over to Thurgadin for the meat. It would be handy if someone else could learn the secret of making cheese, but I'm not gonna complain too loud. After all, if it was easy, anyone could do it, and wouldn't that be a shame.

Oh, and perhaps the person was named after the land. It is not that unusual to find a plot of land named after a person (the umpteen zillion *name*dells that populate cheap fantasy novels come to mind), so it is not unbelievable that someone is named after a plot of land.

[Calabar]

For those of us who are not druids or rangers, hunting in JP without ruining our faction is all but impossible. And please excuse me while I suffer through a sudden attack of multiple personality disorder. My current main is a shaman that all the faction-altering animals in JP hate, but my first two mains are a druid and a ranger who still call JP home when I take them out for experience. It’s all very confusing.

Anyway, if you can’t hunt in JP and take advantage of the griffon and anaconda meat then I would suggest making Halas Pies until they trivial and then making Misty Picnics to 250. Halas Pies are a NIGHTMARE to make due to the insane number of sub combines, but they will get you to 226 without the need of foraging. Everything you need is either mob dropped or store-bought. From my experience, the best place to hunt for eggs, for dough, is from Basilisks in Lavastorm Mountains. Wolf meat drops frequently off Gorge Hounds and Dark Stalkers in the Eastern Plains of Karana. And mammoth meat drops fairly frequently from the mammoths in Eastern Wastes. I’ve not made Misty Picnics yet, as its my druid that hit 226 baking and I’m currently playing my shaman, but from what I’ve read you should be able to make these without being able to forage. You will need foraged vegetables and foraged fruit, but only in small numbers. One vegetable makes 10 salads, so you would only need 10 vegetables for 100 picnic combines. And since one fruit makes 6 apricot marmalades and each marmalade makes 12 marmalade sandwiches you’ll need even fewer fruit. If you know someone who can forage, they can easily supply you with all the fruit and veggies you’ll need. And if not they are almost always available in the bazaar, often for 1 gold each, at least on Seventh Hammer.

This is not the easiest road to GM baker, but it does have its advantages. Hunting in JP is slow. Its great if your hunting for XP, but painfully slow otherwise. It may still take you some time to hunt for the supplies you need for Halas Pies, but the mobs are faster kills and you can often find the meat on vendors. If you have the money you could even head over to Everfrost and offer to buy mammoth meat from lower level characters who hunt the mammoths in that zone. Overall I think you’ll find that you can gain skill faster with these two items then you could with griffon and anaconda meat, though those combines are wondrously simple. Another advantage of making Halas Pies is that the yield is usually very good. You’ll have pies exploding from you bank box before you know it. And they make very good stat food for warriors.

Best of luck.

[Tenlaienye]

Hey, if you want to purchase a large number of MTP parts i have them, i got baking to 191 with my ranger but have not yet began to work on it with my magician, who will take the skill to 250. If you want to purchase these parts, just leave a message about it here.


Tenlaienye Everarcher
Ranger of the 47th Season
Amies Dliberte of Brell Serills

[Cohibus]

Griffon Melts

I've been trying to raise my skill combining griffon meat from JP into Griffon Melts (griff meat + cheese + loaf of bread, triv 250). I am currently at 200 skill and have done about 300 combines with NOT ONE skill up. So although griffons are easy to find and kill (at higher levels) in JP... it may not be worth the trouble as I've easily spent half a week gathering stack of meat for no actual skill point benefit.

[Morani]

It's been said over and over again, skill-ups come faster when you are closer to the trivial point of the item you are working on. No where is this more important than at 190+. If your skill is 190 or 200 and you are working on something that trivs over 250, you are going to fail a LOT and the skill-up will be pathetic. If you can, find something closer to your skill level and work on it, you'll have a LOT few combines to do over all. That's why the people who have done the Truffles usually swear by them.

Cohibus, I know this is dreadfully obvious but I've got to ask anyway with the coincidence of where you are stuck. You aren't capped on your baking at 200 because of anther skill over 200 are you? <sheepish grin>

[Cohibus]

No no, no other skill over 200, save maybe 2hs.

Yeah I know that the larger gap between current skill and tivial skill affects the outcome. This seems to be widely variable in tradeskill and recipe though. However, despite this, I figured an easy skill up recipe was still preferrable over the headache of Halas Pies or MTPs. I surely didn't expect 0 skill raises in 300 attempts. (ex: my tailoring went up from 10 to 66 making MTP baskets in much less time, even though the gap was higher than 50 points in the beginning).

[Morani]

ex: my tailoring went up from 10 to 66 making MTP baskets in much less time, even though the gap was higher than 50 points in the beginning.

&lt; snicker> True, but I don't think I've ever heard of someone going 300 combines to get from 59-60... There seem to be two "walls" (well 3 really but the last one is a reverse of the other 2); 1 hits at ~135-150 and the other at ~180 when things suddenly get harder. If you look back at the number of people mentioning in Primal Scream about going 200+ between skill-ups (I think I remember some poor sot going ~1200 combines &lt;wince>) it's not that uncommon after you hit 180. I've heard that after ~225-230 things get easier in general but I can't speak from experience on that ... yet. :twisted:

[Britneyy]

I did MTP all the way from 191 to 250 Baking skill id say it took about 2-3000 combines, 206-207 alone was 250 combines. Since all of these compnents except Fruit/Veggies can easily be bought in the bazaar which is adjecent. Where 1 stack of veggies will make 200 combines (asuming no failure) and 1 stack of fruit makes like 840+ combines or so. I've been able to find each pretty cheap about 5gp-1pp each and having some friend even who can forage save them. The only problem with this way is the time consuming of all the combines. From 206-250 Baking it took me only 1500pp and by the time i hit 250 and started to sell. I made over 12,000pp

[Cinaed]

Ruatha

In reference to the being named after a land comment:

Ruatha Hold and Weyr were both named after one of the original settlers of Pern, who, oddly enough, was named Ruatha.

Sad, isn't it? How stuff like this can stick in my head, and yet I can't remember where I put my sunglasses?

[Brickhaus]

You might want to try to pop into JP to see if any enterprising Druid or Ranger would like to sell their griffon meat. They are kind of a waste if you aren't going for high level baking and they don't sell for that much to the vendors. You could offer 2-5pp per meat, and probably get as much as you wanted. And the nice thing about JP is that there is a bank right there, so if someone had some but not on them they can easily get to them.

I know on Xev, I'd be happy to sell my 9 stacks for 5pp per meat since I'm already at 250 and I don't plan on raising any alt over 200.

[halinar]

There has been a boom on Quellious and Anaconda/Griffon meats are selling for around 50pp each now. Glad I lived in JP long enough to hit 250 in baking just by hunting. OUCH!