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**Sanna** · 05-19-2003, 07:52 PM

well, keep in mind it may be trivial AT 200. Just because it has that skillup range doesn't mean that you can use that item to skillup all the way to 250.

This is not to discourage you; I'm sure many would like it if you pursued that and found the trivial, or narrowed it down much, or even some.

The place where the heavy clay drops is indeed a rather low zone, but I'm afraid I do not know the particular drop rate on the clay.

**Troodon** · 05-20-2003, 06:02 AM

My understanding is that heavy clay is a very rare drop. Weary wrass I don't think is any rarer than any other zone specific fish, so assuming you can get into ST and find a safe place to fish, that shouldn't be a big deal.

I think though that you'll find there's a lot more efficent ways to skill up baking than this, hehe. The cheesey vegetable, anaconda, and griffon cassoroles all are never trivial, and have only one subcombine (noodles, not counting the one time making of the casserole dish). If you have a large stockpile of justice fruit, justice fruit pies not a bad way to go either. (Justice fruit may be rare, but is more common than heavy clay if you're a skilled forager!) Holy cake goes all the way to 242, if you can afford the essenses and eucalyptus (nice fringe benefit is this is good resist food).

There's quite a few options to get to 250 baking without the dreaded Halas 10 lb. Meat Pies and Misty Thicket Picnics. Slumberfish Pie ddoesn't stirke me as the beast way to go about it, hehe, but to each his own. Check the recipes, hehe, I think you'll find tah if avoiding annoying subcombines or farminfg rare ingredients i your aim, there's better wayd to go about it.

**iisis trancefury** · 05-20-2003, 07:27 AM

Weary Wrass

In my ventures for weary wrass I quickly became *very* frustrated after using more than 400 baits and catching none nada zip zilch! I was never able to confirm them dropping on live servers. The only confirmed drops were on test. This was a good while ago though so it may have changed. The only water I know of is near Final Arbiter (which is not close to the zone in at all). What I did was just stay after my guild killed him and fished until I ran out of bait when I was still on the kick. Everything sees invis now in ST so I don't think there is a way to get to the water other than going on a raid with guildies/friends. At any rate good luck with your attempts on the pies!

Let us know if you get any made!

**OberonMiM** · 05-20-2003, 10:30 AM

alot of guilds park a mage by the Final Arbitor so they dont heave to clear through the useless trash on the way to the real prize (the warders).

I beleive there is another section with water before the final arbitor but a drake spawns down there so it isn't exactly safe

Also you have that little fact of most guilds give st keys to only melee's clerics and only a select few essential casters because the loot for casters that drops is so underpar it might as well be nonexistant

**Calabar** · 05-20-2003, 11:50 AM

I�ve never been to Sleepers Tomb, so I can�t comment about the fish. However, I�ve spent a LOT of time recently in the gorge hunting muddites. I used the heavy clay for pottery skill ups. First of all, the heavy clay is not heavy. It weights 0.1 and is stackable. And second, it�s not all that rare. I run around killing the muddites one by one with my spirit puppy. I usually have a stack of 20 clay within an hour. Doing an area effect spell on a train of muddites may get you a larger supply. I�ve never run out of muddites to fight, so they aren�t rare, but if you mass slaughter them you may have to wait for more to spawn. The only other things you have to worry about in the zone are a few goblins, some minotaurs and a few evil eyes. But the highest-level mob in the zone, not counting the indifferent dwarf NPC, is 30 so I doubt you�ll have any problems.

**SamirDaStinky** · 05-21-2003, 01:38 AM

been a long long long time since I've been in sleeper's, but ya weary wrass is definately fishable there.

there's 3 places in there that I can think of that have "water" (i put it in quotations because it's like a cold lava. you take freezing damage, similar to how you take burning damage in lava). one area is opposite the Progenitor's door. there's a dragon statue with a small water moat around it. i've fished up some there.

the second spot is way way deep inside at the sewer drop off point. huge door opens downward and you fall or lev down onto a big water pool.

the third spot is the FA / warder area. once down the previous drop off, there's another smaller tunnel which leads to another drop off in a big pipe. this pipe leads to the FA (final arbitor). there's a pretty big gap between the end of the pipe and the FA, and in between is plenty of water. Ideally, if you can get to this spot (coh mage like mentioned before would leave you very close to here), you can fish to your heart's content without fear of any aggro from anything, as the only mob that is close to this water area is the FA. also, if it happens to be completely cleared by your guild, you can go past the FA into the warder area and the Sleeper's bubble, which is entirely surrounded by water.

if your guild is planning on clearing ST the old fashioned way (no coh straight down to FA), then you'll be passing all 3 of these points. thru my guild's clearings I've had some decent fishing time at all three of these spots and managed to fish up a whole stack of weary wrass in one trip.

that should give you a good start if you plan on fishing there. ST is definately not the place to go fishing in by yourself. to even get to the really good spot down by the FA, you'll need your guild (or another guild) to help you get down that far, whether by clearing or via coh'ing down there.

hope this helps you in your endeavor to fish in ST

it's one of the more "uber" locations to fish in. NToV is cooler though if you know where the only spot is

**Faymar** · 05-21-2003, 08:34 AM

I did the slumberfish pie ... it's a viable skill-up method I guess (I won't add it to my skill-up path as having access to ST isn't that common) but:

1) you have to prepare the fish. Celandine isn't cheap.
2) you have to bake it with fennel cream sauce, 2 subcombines (but high yield, thank god)
3) you have to get the heavy mud for the pie crock (not THAT rare but hardly dropping en masse either)
4) you have to have the pottery skill to make the pie crocks (note the crockpot is consumed in the recipe, although again yield is high)
5) the stats are depressing for the effort put in

My gut instinct is that they are more farming time and more expensive than pies/picnics and yield a result that can't be sold. On the other hand, it is less subcombines overall than picnics or pies, so if that's your main criteria, these would work.

At 200 skill, I get a stack of Weary Wrass in half an hour; getting the fish is the least of your worries. I still fish these for the darts but have to admit I don't bother with the pies anymore.

**Leafrat** · 05-22-2003, 05:50 PM

Thanks

Thanks for the large amount of information about the topic, this is exactly what I needed to know.

Think I might try a few, and after this site has given me so much help in my tradeskilling, it would be incredibly rewarding for me to know that I've somewhat "given back" to eqtraders by finding the trivial, even if that pice of information is not really incredibly useful :P

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