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    Butcher Redloe says 'Vasha. Have you seensome of the [fish] here in the Serpent's Spine Mountains? They are quite exquisite. If fish is not to your taste, maybe you would like something more [hearty]?'

    You say, 'What is more hearty?'

    Butcher Redloe says 'If you want hearty food, then there is nothing better than a good [blood sausage]. It will tide you over many of a hungry day.'

    You say, 'How do I make blood sausage?'

    Butcher Redloe says 'Chop up an onion, and mix it with lard, cream, butter, ground pepper, salt and spices. Stuff the mixture into a sausage casing, and pack it tight, but being sure to not actually rip it. Make a small hole so that the sausage casing is not ripped and make it until it stops bubbling. If you like it spicier, simply add more spices.'

    I was very interested in Blood Sausage and the tie-in to Brodder's Diaries (brewing) so I tried a few combinations. I'm definitely having trouble with this though, so I'd like to get anyone else's ideas.

    Here are a few observations that I'm using to try to figure this out:
    1. All sausage recipes to date use these base ingredients:
      onion + ground pepper + coarse salt + fennel + sausage casing + [meat product] where
      [meat product] is usually some marinated fish or game, made in a mixing bowl
    2. Alternatives for spices would be fennel, spices or habanero pepper.
      One or more spices may be required depending on how hot you want the sausage to be.
    3. Alternatives for coarse salt would be rock salt or fine salt.
    4. Now, if I figure that the [meat product], spices or salt may vary slightly and that leaves three base ingredients which I define as:
      [base ingredients] is ground pepper + onion + sausage casing


    Now we have a general formula to work with:
    [base ingredients] + [meat product] + [spice option] + [salt option]

    But before we start getting to tricky for our own good, lets try the obvious combinations where we just put everything in the oven at once:

    onion + ground pepper + sausage casing + lard + cream + butter + coarse salt + spices = DNC

    Now I do the very obvious substitutions for salt:
    onion + ground pepper + sausage casing + lard + cream + butter + rock salt + spices = DNC

    Then the obvious substitutions for spices:
    onion + ground pepper + sausage casing + lard + cream + butter + coarse salt + fennel = DNC
    onion + ground pepper + sausage casing + lard + cream + butter + coarse salt + habanero pepper = DNC

    Then I go back and try both salt and spice variations together:
    onion + ground pepper + sausage casing + lard + cream + butter + rock salt + fennel = DNC
    onion + ground pepper + sausage casing + lard + cream + butter + rock salt + habanero pepper = DNC

    Ok, so maybe the issue is spices. I go back and do all the above combines but using 2 of each spice option (2 habanero, 2 fennel, 2 spices) instead of 1 of each spice option. Finally, I try 3 habaneros and 3 spices instead of 1 of each -- but I only have 2 fennel and that would be way too much fennel anyway, so I skip it.

    Ok, having tried all the obvious "All in One Oven" recipes, I've decided that my [meat product] theory might work out better. Hopefully if I can find a [meat product] then we can move on to the actual stuffing of the sausage.

    Comparing Butcher Redlore's ingredient list to the traditional sausage recipes, it would seem that the [meat product] here would consist of lard, butter and cream.

    In a mixing bowl:
    lard + butter + cream = DNC

    Right, well, I didnt really expect it to, but... ok! Lets try the other obvious combines just in case, again in a mixing bowl:
    lard + butter = DNC
    lard + cream = DNC
    lard + lard = DNC
    lard + butter sauce + cream = DNC
    lard + butter sauce = DNC

    Now I have a momentary vision of a new sauce made out of cream and butter which isn't butter sauce but is named 'heart attack special' so I do some combines in a brew barrel:
    lard + butter + cream = DNC
    butter + cream = DNC
    butter sauce + cream = DNC

    Right, well that was a silly idea anyway. I give up on that path before I start putting in every possible combination known to man.

    Maybe the [meat product] recipe involves some spicing earlier? Oops, I forgot that I left my trusty baking assistant holding the habaneros, I'll need to make a quick trip back to Plane of Knowledge to get those!

    Back from recovering the covetted jalapenos from my trusty assistant (you just can't trust sous-chefs anyway!) I try these in a mixing bowl just in case:
    lard + butter + cream + spices = DNC
    lard + butter + cream + habanero pepper = DNC
    lard + butter + cream + fennel = DNC

    I decide this is a silly idea now because it doesn't have any extra room for multiple spice combines anyway. And I'm just about to start trying to make [meat product] in the Oven when I realize, "Wouldn't it just melt?"

    And thats when it dawns on me...
    WHERE'S THE BLOOD?

    All this time, I've been assuming it was just from the lard, but now I'm really beginning to wonder.

    Some other miscellaneous ideas:
    • The sausage casing may require special treatment.
    • Blood is yucky, but we might need some.
    I've had enough of this project for one day (and possibly for one lifetime) so I've dumped all my ingredients back onto the counter for my sous-chef to put away and I'm going to go have a nice Halas Heater to take the sting out of failure.

    I'm a decent baker, but I've never had any luck at all in figuring out recipes, so if you have some suggestions on possible ideas or directions to go that might turn out well, I'd be indebted.

    Cheers,
    Ashwith Fairfever
    Spiritwatcher of Halas on the Moon of Luclin
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  • #2
    Butcher Redloe says 'Chop up an onion, and mix it with lard, cream, butter, ground pepper, salt and spices.
    Has anyone tried to chop the onion first?
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    • #3
      Selections from Wikipedia's entry:

      Black pudding, blood sausage or blood pudding is a sausage made by cooking down the blood of an animal with meat, fat or filler until it is thick enough to congeal when cooled.

      The ingredients include pig's blood, suet, bread, barley and oatmeal.

      The most common variant of German Blutwurst is made from fatty pork meat, bovine blood and filler such as barley.

      In the Rhineland, where it is also traditionally made from horse meat....

      Black pudding is also the name of a fictional species of monster which appears in the role-playing game Dungeons & Dragons. This creature is a mobile but mindless blob of black jelly which attacks and eats with corrosive acid. If struck with a bladed weapon, it divides into two smaller but fully active entities.
      From The Cook's Thesaurus

      blood sausage = blood pudding = black pudding = black sausage = boudin noir Notes: These eggplant-colored sausages are made of pig's blood mixed with fat, a filler like bread crumbs, and other flavorings that vary from region to region. They're usually sold precooked, but most people heat them before serving. Regional varieties include Germany's blutwurst, Louisiana's boudin rouge, and Spanish morcilla. Substitutes: zungenwurst OR boudin blanc
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      • #4
        Very interesting post Beldhyr. Seems as if the spoken recipe omitted some type of blood by accident, or on purpose as a puzzle. Perhaps many different blood types will work, as in the egg combinations. If all 8 current items indeed get used in one recipe, and you reserve 1 spot for extra spices, then maybe the final spot is for blood. Like Elf blood, or Trout blood...

        Yes, I tried about 10 ways to chop the onion, all DNC. There is a reference to "chopped onion" in one of the fish recipes I made recently, but the recipe ends up just using Onion.

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        • #5
          Or I screwed up when I made the text that the NPC says :/

          there is blood in it, but it currently is only a specific blood... and not necessarily one you would think of right away. It is not "canabilistic"
          Ngreth Thergn

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          • #6
            Aww, it's all good Ngreth!

            I've had fun trying out the various options and trying to come up with a sausage formula. Besides, it beats doing my real life dishes any day!

            I'll try throwing some blood in the mix.
            Non-cannibalistic, eh? Hrm...

            Cheers,
            Ashwith Fairfever
            Spiritwatcher of Halas on the Moon of Luclin
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            • #7
              OK, as punishment I think we should force the Ogre to take a 1 week vacation! Maybe that will teach him a thing or two!! Grrr.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn
                Or I screwed up when I made the text that the NPC says :/

                there is blood in it, but it currently is only a specific blood... and not necessarily one you would think of right away. It is not "canabilistic"

                The blood type surprised even me. (big evil grin).

                I'll give yall a month at this before the rhyme clues start, if Ngreth allows me to again.
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                • #9
                  ogre blood? after all it used to be an ogre city...

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                  • #10
                    there are a 173 known blood items and I will see if I can find out if they all got tradeskill tags (sorry went by name so some of these could be not "blood" but items with name blood:
                    A Bottle of Aged Bloodwine
                    A Bottle of Bloodroot Wine
                    A Cask of Aged Bloodwine
                    A Cask of Bloodroot Wine
                    A Giant Blood Sac
                    A Vial of Black Blood
                    A Vial of Tainted Blood
                    Aching Blood
                    Air Mephit Blood
                    Akheva Blood
                    Aqua Goblin Blood Vial
                    Arachnid Blood
                    Arterial Blood
                    Asteatotic Veksar Blood
                    Bag of Dried Blood
                    Bat Blood
                    Bazu Blood
                    Bloated Drogan Spider Blood Sample
                    Blood Fire
                    Blood of Kyrenna
                    Blood of Nihil
                    Blood of the Dhampyre
                    Blood of the Lost Heroes
                    Blood of the Wolf
                    Blood of Velious
                    Blood Porter
                    Blood Raven Parts
                    Blood Raven Stew
                    Blood Tainted Cod
                    Blood Tainted Pod of Water
                    Bloodbath
                    Blood-Filled Aneuk Heart
                    Bloodied Bone Chips
                    Bloodied Gargoyle Claw
                    Bloodied Hynid Paw
                    Bloodied Werewolf Claw
                    Bloodred Wine
                    Bloodroot
                    Bloody Claw of Draazak
                    Bloody Claw of Jerigozia
                    Bloody Claw of Veredenia
                    Bloody Cougar Bone
                    Bloody Drachnid Collarbone
                    Bloody Feran Claws
                    Bloody Orc Head
                    Bloody Shak Dratha Heart
                    Bloody Tormentor Parts
                    Boiling Lavaspinner Blood
                    Broken Skull Clan Blood
                    Brood Dragon Blood
                    Bubonian Blood
                    Centaur Blood
                    Congealed Bat Blood
                    Congealed Blood of Redfang
                    Cragbeast Blood
                    Crypt Blood Slurry
                    Crystallized Blood
                    Dash of Wolf Blood
                    Deathwing Blood
                    Diaku Blood
                    Discordling Shadowblood
                    Distilled Lizard Blood
                    Djinni Blood
                    Drachnid Blood
                    Dragon Blood
                    Dragorn Blood
                    Drake Blood
                    Drakkin Blood
                    Drop of Accursed Blood
                    Drop of Loda Kai Blood
                    Drop of Wolf Blood
                    Dwarf Blood
                    Dwarven Blood
                    Earth Mephit Blood
                    Elddar Blood
                    Elven Blood
                    Enchanted Lava Spider Blood
                    Energized Noc Blood
                    Ethereal Blood
                    Exceptional Ratman Blood
                    Exceptional Shissar Blood
                    Feran Blood
                    Feran Heart Blood
                    Fey Blood
                    Fire Mephit Blood
                    Flask of Bloodwater
                    Forest Giant Blood
                    Froglok Blood
                    Frothing Drake Blood
                    Fyr Jen's Blood
                    Gelidran Blood
                    Gelidran Heart Blood
                    Giant Blood
                    Goblin Blood
                    Green Goblin Blood Vial
                    Griffenne Blood
                    Grimling Blood
                    Halfling Blood
                    Harpy Blood
                    Hearty Goblin Blood
                    Hearty Shissar Blood
                    Human Blood
                    Hynid Blood
                    Ice Blood
                    Ice Goblin Blood
                    Iksar Blood
                    Imp Blood
                    Impure Goblin Blood
                    Inferno Blood
                    Last Blood
                    Leprous Chokidai Blood Sample
                    Lizard Blood Potion
                    Lizard Blood Temper
                    Luggald Blood
                    Measure of Wolf Blood
                    Minotaur Blood
                    Muramite Blood
                    Muramite Blood Distillate
                    Murkglider Blood
                    Necromancer Blood
                    Neuralgic Wyvern Blood
                    Nightmare Mephit Blood
                    Noc Blood
                    Paladin Blood Sample
                    Petrified Drake Blood
                    Phase Spider Blood
                    Psilocybe of Blood
                    Pure Blood
                    Pure Discordant Blood
                    Putrescent Blood
                    Pyrilen Blood
                    Pyrilen Heart Blood
                    Robust Lizard Man Blood
                    Rockhopper Blood
                    Royal Kromrif Blood
                    Sand Elf Blood
                    Sandy Goblin Blood
                    Sarnak Blood
                    Scorpion Blood
                    Scrykin Blood
                    Seared Imp's Blood
                    Shiliskin Blood
                    Shissar Blood
                    Sickly Mosquito Blood Sample
                    Simmering Basilisk Blood
                    Slarghilug Blood
                    Slime Blood of Cazic Thule
                    Sonic Wolf Blood
                    Spinning Whirl of Blood
                    Storm Rider Blood
                    Tae Ew Blood Vial
                    Trusik Blood
                    Twitching Swordfish Blood Sample
                    Vampyre Blood
                    Vial of Blackened Blood
                    Vial of Blackfall Blood
                    vial of corrupted blood
                    Vial of Drachnid Blood
                    Vial of Elf Blood
                    Vial of Ghoul Blood
                    Vial of Gnoll Blood
                    Vial of Infected Puma Blood
                    Vial of Noble's Blood
                    Vial of Preserved Blood
                    Vial of Vampire Blood
                    Volatile Vampyre Blood
                    Wailing Sister Blood
                    War Wraith Blood
                    Warrior's Blood
                    Water Mephit Blood
                    Wolf Blood
                    Wurine Blood
                    Xakra Blood
                    Last edited by Artemisia; 10-27-2006, 07:19 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn
                      there is blood in it, but it currently is only a specific blood... and not necessarily one you would think of right away. It is not "canabilistic"
                      So according to dictionary:
                      1. the eating of human flesh by another human being.
                      2. the eating of the flesh of an animal by another animal of its own kind.

                      So if we remove al "mob" blood items we left with very few (and again i went only by names of listings)
                      A Giant Blood Sac
                      A Vial of Black Blood
                      A Vial of Tainted Blood
                      Arterial Blood
                      Bag of Dried Blood
                      Blood Porter
                      Blood Tainted Pod of Water
                      Bloodroot
                      Crystallized Blood
                      Ethereal Blood
                      Flask of Bloodwater
                      Ice Blood
                      Inferno Blood
                      Last Blood
                      Psilocybe of Blood
                      Pure Blood
                      Putrescent Blood
                      Slime Blood of Cazic Thule
                      Spinning Whirl of Blood
                      Vial of Blackened Blood
                      Vial of Blackfall Blood
                      vial of corrupted blood
                      Vial of Preserved Blood



                      My favorite of these ones is :"Psilocybe of Blood" ground spawn, not related to a mob and something you probably dont think of too fast.

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                      • #12
                        it is not in that list.

                        (I may have forgotten to put the tradeskill tag on it, and it previously was not used in tradeskills)
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn
                          it is not in that list.

                          (I may have forgotten to put the tradeskill tag on it, and it previously was not used in tradeskills)

                          What he said. That's why Brodder was surprised.
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                          • #14
                            Hmmmm sooo...
                            • it's not canabalistic, so CANT be one of the Playable classes blood (Drakkin, Ogre, human,gnome etc).
                            • It hasn't been used in tradeskills before, so Im going to assume its was NOT flagged as tradeskills previously.
                            • Im also assuming its Tradeable.
                            • I would assume the blood is available in the Serpent Spine
                            • not previously used in tradeskills, so its an existing item (probably a Merchant Fodder item)
                            • not necessarily one you would think of right away (some twist or play on words in the item name)
                            • Not listed previously in this thread


                            Ill have to play with an EQ Items database and see what i can come up with.
                            Last edited by Eanelder; 10-30-2006, 01:50 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Feydrake Blood
                              Pod of Blood
                              Planar Blood Brew
                              Blood of Dragonkind
                              Blood of the Royals
                              Blood Spirit
                              Blood Thirsty Rat Hide
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