Why no tribute for baking items?

[Sariss]

I don't want this to be a rant, I hope it doesn't come across as such. I'm just puzzled as to why highlevel food (Specifically MTPs, but also HMPs, for example) can't be tributed. I don't expect huge amounts of points for them, but given the high level of skill needed to make them I don't see why something like 5 or 3 or even just 1 points per picnic would be a bad thing.

It wouldn't be such a problem except that the market on luclin is so oversaturated that prices of 2pp per is common. It's hard to get excited about 40pp a stack, especially when someone will very likely undercut me at 1.5pp per. Selling them to a vendor is worth next to nothing, and bankspace is already at a major premium. I did a skillup run today and now my guildbank has over 2400 MTPs because there's nothing else to do with them. At least if I could tribute them, like I can items for tailoring and smithing, I'd get some personal gain, however small, for my time and efforts. I don't think that's a selfish thing to desire, is it?

[Buns]

I got a telling of from guild number 2 when I filled GB up with MTP. I hope your guild leaders are more understanding.

At 1 MTP to tribute NPC every 2 seconds your 2400 MTPs would stake 80mins, and in another 80 minutes your 2400 tribute points are all used up.

I eventually used up my all my MTP by donating them instead of pp for buffs. And now I always do that, I find that the buffers wanting pp for buffs dont have max extension on their buffs, and those who take MTP last for hours.

[InweElf]

2pp per is common

I sold mine for 15-20pp each for years. Looks like people just make these to go up in skill & then sell them just to be rid of them. EQ should either make it harder for people to go up. It's shamful that after you Grandmaster you are slammed back into making Newbie money. It's really upsetting to see such good food sold as if it's a Bat Wing.

This happens in Brewing also with Kaladims & you do not make every combine going up either. You fail & lose money.

The Bazaar is not a Bazaar. The Bazaar has really turned to ****.

[Ngreth Thergn]

It has to do with how much it is worth to NPC vendors.

I am home, so I don't know what it is worth... but if NPC's will not buy it for at least 1pp, then it has no tribute value.

[InweElf]

It has to do with how much it is worth to NPC vendors.

It has to do with how much it is worth to NPC vendors.

K want to explain for one example Planar Pies? They sell in Bazaar for 50pp Each but worth almost nothing to vendar. Same with Foraged eggs. You can make a fortune just selling the eggs but a merchant lol will just rip you off.

What you are saying is not true.

Inwe

[Qaladar Bragollach]

You do understand that NPC stands for non-player character... aka a merchant... not someone in the bazaar.

[InweElf]

NPC stands for non-player character

NPC stands for non-player character

Yes I do understand this but NPCs have nothing to do with how much something is really worth it depends on the item.

The day I get 20pp for a swatch from an NPC I will fall over. The day I get 1-5 pp for one foraged vegetable I'll have a heart attack. I get more for one foraged Vegetable than some can get for a Grandmasters Misty thicket!

something not right.

I can go brew up some Dragon Egg Oil but would never get over 100pp for one from a merchant.

How much it is worth has nothing to do with NPCs. NPCs totaly rip you off.

There is no reason that a Grandmastered Item such as a Misty Thicket should be selling ot bought from an NPC for such a low price. If something is worth something it should be treated so.

You should also be allowed to Trade items while playing another char. Newbies you also be trained where to sell their items since NPCs rip them off & they have nothing.

If things changed, more people would stop leaving EQ. But I see it! EQ is going to push themselves right out of the Game Buisness because more & more each day they make too many people angree.

NPC buying a Grandmastered item for such a low price. That's just crazy!

Inwe

[Qaladar Bragollach]

Ngreth said that things that sell to an NPC vendor for less than 1pp have no tribute values.

You called him a liar and countered with planar fruit pies and the fact that they sell in the bazaar for 50pp.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

If planar fruit pies sell to an NPC merchant for less than 1pp then they have no tribute value. Their bazaar value is totally irrelevant.

Misty Thickets sell to a merchant for such a low value because they are 95% made from other vendor components. With the huge yields on the subcombines, they are incredibly cheap to make. The devs have decided and intentionally made it so that one cannot make a profit from buying things, combining them, and selling back. They do this because every time a profitable recipe slips through the cracks, people set up macro bots to manufacture platinum. If misty thickets sold for anything like their market value to a vendor, there would be plat making macro bots springing up overnight.

[InweElf]

Sariss

Why no tribute for baking items?

Solution: Make up lots of Misty Thickets & sell them in the Bazaar. Take the money you make & put it into tribute. If you can not get to Bazaar? Do an OOC in zones & also POK!

There is something called Private buyers. When someone buys Misty Thickets from you. Ask them if they would like to buy from you again. Tell them that you will have the item ready whenever they wish to re-buy & to send you a tell. If you can? Bring them the Misty Thickets to whatever zone they are in.

Point being is if they are your buyer they will only work with you rather than going to Bazaar or POK. Take all the pp you make & put that into your Tribute.

Do not sell them to any NPC because you will be losing massive pp you can use & have honestly earned. Get the PP you worked for & buy some nice new gear for yourself or spells.

If you can not hand Certain Items in to Tribute Master... FINE! Sell the Items in Bazaar, Nexus, POK or even in the zone you are in & Give him PP instead because Tribute Master will take PP.

Inwe

[Ngreth Thergn]

It has to do with how much it is worth to NPC vendors.

K want to explain for one example Planar Pies? They sell in Bazaar for 50pp Each but worth almost nothing to vendar. Same with Foraged eggs. You can make a fortune just selling the eggs but a merchant lol will just rip you off.

What you are saying is not true.

Inwe

Like they say.

What *I* very specifically said is true. if an NPC (non Player Character) will not buy it for at least 1 pp, then it has no tribute value (Or should not, that is the "rule")

I said nothing about the value to players. We at SOE have no control over what a playerr in the game charges another player, nor what another player will spend money on.

I also said nothing aobut all of the prices being correct. Just what the system is generically set to (It is a process done by "hand" but nonethless it is the rule we are told to follow 1pp value (the NPC vendor price) = 1 tribute.) There are many vendor prices in the game that are incorrect.

[Zaltak]

tribute for baking items

So candied Taw Ee is worth 30ish PP to vendors but pallidium fire opal rings are worth less then 1pp? /boggle

[Maevenniia]

apologies to teh OP, but I am closing this thread. If folks want to vent their frustrations, do so in PSR....remembering that the Rules still apply there too.