Using GoD baking for skillup

[Eoghnved]

I've come up with a plan to grandmaster baking using fished crab and tuna from Abysmal sea. I'll list it here for comments or suggestions.

From my current Baking skill of 186
Lemon-buttered crab or tuna rolls to 192 (Lemon-buttered saves me the expense of buying sugar at 5 gold each.)
Beer-battered crab or tuna rolls to 207 (Here I'm using the more expensive beer batter.)
Lemon-buttered crab or tuna souffle to 236
Beer-battered crab or tuna souffle to 250

I can also use Buttered crab or tuna souffle (trivial 227) as a step between the rolls and the Lemon-buttered souffle by leaving out the lemon in the sauce recipe if the jump in trivials is too unworkable. The reason I'm using the buttered recipes instead of sticking with beer all throughout is to save money. (It does require an extra subcombine step in making the butter. At level 32, I still have more time than money.)

Has anyone tried something similar to this? I've already hit diminishing returns with skillups (I got one out of my last four stacks on the final combine...) but I still think this method is cheap enough to allow me to keep trying. The only thing needed I can't farm myself is the vegetables, but I have five stacks set aside for the first run of souffle combines. After that I guess I'll just try to find a friendly forager who'll make a deal.

[Froni Thunderpaws]

I kind of took a different route but I can forage. I did beer-battered hynid and cragbeast steaks to 222 (forage in Natimbi and GoD zones) and then MTP's to 250 with a few souffles, pies, and other things tossed in. Your veggies will go MUCH farther with Picnics - one veggie is enough for 10 picnic combines versus 1 souffle combine (took me between 600-700 combines to get from 222 to 250). I think when I looked at it (look somewhere for a post down below) it was actually more expensive to do the beer-batter combines versus the MTP's at each point (sugar is expensive) because of the multiple yields on subcombines for picnics.

Good luck!!!

[Bryan Williams]

I I did beer-battered hynid and cragbeast steaks to 222 (forage in Natimbi and GoD zones) and then MTP's to 250 with a few souffles, pies, and other things tossed in.

I just recently raised my baking to 250 this very same way. Cragbeast and hynid meat is quite common on vendors, and cheap enough. The amount of subcombines on MTP's made me wary, but it turned out to be easy enough, esp. since some nice person had sold several hundred Jumjum spiced beers to the barbarian by the brew barrel in PoK. Check the vendors in the eastern trade buildings and see if you can buy some of the subcombines already made as you go.

[Eoghnved]

I kind of took a different route but I can forage. I did beer-battered hynid and cragbeast steaks to 222 (forage in Natimbi and GoD zones) and then MTP's to 250 with a few souffles, pies, and other things tossed in. Your veggies will go MUCH farther with Picnics - one veggie is enough for 10 picnic combines versus 1 souffle combine (took me between 600-700 combines to get from 222 to 250). I think when I looked at it (look somewhere for a post down below) it was actually more expensive to do the beer-batter combines versus the MTP's at each point (sugar is expensive) because of the multiple yields on subcombines for picnics.

Good luck!!!

I thought about trying the picnics, but I'd also need to find some foraged fruit and farm brownie parts. Any way I go, there seems to be no way around foraging for high end bakers.

[Pointee]

I did GoD baking to around 245. Doing Various steaks to around 222 and then using my stacks of veggies and stacks of basilisk eggs to finish up to 245. I had recruited a few friends exp'ing in BoT all day/nite long to save me toes and jord meat. Did those to finish to 250.

I liked the GoD recipes a lot, gives us a lot of different options to get to 250.

I wish some of the other tradeskills got such nice additions *cough* Tailoring.

[Daikoku Ashikaga]

I did sufflaes or how eve r they are spelled, Theey were far easier to do then MTP once they introduced egg batter


Dai

[Kaaba]

I've done nothing but souffles since around 210 or so, but then it's easy for me since I have two main characters that both forage and I save all the veggies I get.

[iasmin]

the economical baker (I wish)

My very first and only Tradeskill GM to date has been baking (on my bazaar mule, to be honest). I've been keeping up on the threads about grandmastery routes in case I wanted to take another toon there or if I wanted to work on multiple mastery with my main, Jaddari.

What I haven't seen so far is a good side-by-side numbers comparison that uses the standard H10MP and MTP route for baking GM versus the GoD baking using the fished and foraged meats. Several of you earlier on posted that you compared prices. Anyone care to share the cost comparisons of the routes you took (not included the cost of foraged meat, that is, unless you bought it from vendors, I suppose).

I suppose ultimately what I'd like is a guide comparable to Baroness Zeralan's Economical Smith. There's rumor she's making a tailoring and a baking guide as well, but I find that the comparisons of costs in her smithing guide to be the kind of logic I'm looking for. Anyone have prelim comparison numbers they want to share?

[Eoghnved]

Well, here's an update. I just hit 201 baking last night, after about 14 stacks of beer based batter/beer-battered crab and tuna meat/crab and tuna rolls to get from 196. The skillups are slow at this level, but my success rate is at least good enough to recover most of the cost. Keep your fingers crossed for me over the next few days.

[Aalar]

Please post what your highest skill is when do you do the combines. It would give me a better feel for how many combines a particular level would take.

Aalar

[Eoghnved]

Please post what your highest skill is when do you do the combines. It would give me a better feel for how many combines a particular level would take.

Aalar

Well, here's some data for you. I started with enough supplies for 200 beer-battered tuna/crab roll attempts. Ended up with only 183 attempts because of failures on the subcombines. The cost for the 200 was roughly 126.49 platinum. At the start of this run, I had INT 171 and Baking 202.

After the 89th combine attempt, I skilled up to 203.
After 57 more attempts, I skilled up to 204.
The last 37 attempts went without any skillups.

I had a total of 177 successes out of the 183 final combines (both skillups were on successes.) I sold the rolls to a vendor for a total of 102.306 platinum, losing about 24.184 plat in the whole deal. At least the tuna and crab are cheap, since a 3 copper fishing grub can get me as many as 15 pieces of meat. (At 162 fishing, I seem to catch crab or tuna on about 80 to 90% of casts.)

[Naedea]

I thought about trying the picnics, but I'd also need to find some foraged fruit and farm brownie parts. Any way I go, there seems to be no way around foraging for high end bakers.

Luckily, you don't need a lot of brownie parts or fruit to make MTP's. A little goes a long way with those, as you get so many marmalades, sandwiches, cakes, and cake slices from the combines. IIRC, you need a bit more vegetables, but not a ridiculous amount.

[Aluaeia]

You get 10x the amount of combines for the same amount of vegetables doing MTP.

100 MTP combines take 1 brownie parts, 10 vegetables, and like, uh, 3 or 4 fruits (i forgot, the last 1500 or so MTP combines i've done with marmalade sandwiches or apricot marmalade off vendors).

100 Souffle combines take 100 vegetables, plus 100 clumps of dough and 200 egg batters (dough + egg batters equivalent to 20 dropped basilisk eggs, though you'll probably need more like 21 or 22 since they don't divide up evenly between batter and dough)

[Eoghnved]

I actually did the subcombines for the picnics and have a decent supply on hand. The problem is that with a trivial that high I'm not able to get any successes. I tried two stacks just to see what I'd get. One success out of forty attempts, no skillups. Unless there's something I'm missing I don't think that particular combine will get me anywhere.

[Rayel]

The real question here, is not weather or not you get more successes with GOd baking because we know that you do. The question is do you get more Skillups for the same amount of Vegtables?

If you get more Skillups, then its worth the extra price of the Veggies, and dough, and eggs.

If not then stay with MTP's