What am I doing wrong?

[Smartheart]

Level 65 Wizard - maxed at 355 INT. I quad kite in HoH so I saved stacks and stacks of Hero Parts. I got to 175ish with no problems doing partial combines for Hero Sandwiches.

I just finished doing 120 combines for Pixie Cinnasticks and only levelled from 175 - 178.

I then did 60 attempts at Hero Sandwiches - did not expect to make many - did expect to get some levels and I got NONE - still at 178.

What am I doing wrong?

[Tinile]

Skill ups take a lot longer, the higher you get. I wouldn't recommend doing 250+ recipes at 170s when you can cheaply and easily do patty melts to 191.

[Smartheart]

Tinile - Thanks for your input - but I am still confused.

Let me try a new question.

Do you level faster trying recipes closer to your level than further away?

Would I level faster trying patty melts than Pixie Cinna's or Hero Sands?

[Stugein]

Originally posted by Smartheart
Do you level faster trying recipes closer to your level than further away?

I think this is a question that is still open for debate. One school of thinking is that you get a higher chance of a skillup on a successful combine as opposed to a failure (though you can get skillups on both). Therefore, if you work on items closer to your trivial you get more successes and as a result more skillups. This theory has not been confirmed AFAIK.

But really, do Patty Melts to 191. It's cheap and the ingredients are fairly simple to come by. No reason to waste your time and money collecting ingredients and failing on high-end combines when you have a cheap and convenient route in Patties available to you.

[Phabos]

While it may be up for debate as to whether or not a successful combine has any bearing on potential skillups (I don't believe so, but I can't don't have the enrgery to prove a lack of correlation), the bottom line is that, as a general rule, skillups will slow greatly the higher your skill level goes.

There are exceptions to this, but don't be surprised to see long baking runs end with no skillups. Those are more the rule than someone getting several at a time. Don't get frustrated. Keep clicking, and those skillups will come. Enjoy the ride.


Phabos Aphsion
Drunken Paladin of Brell
Tarew Marr

[Elwyn]

Do you level faster trying recipes closer to your level than further away?

While there is no definative proof, I think anyone who's started doing misty thicket picnics at 191 skill and taken it up to 250, would probably give you a resounding "YES!"

My experience, and that of the 2 friends who were skilling up at the same time is that skill gains were HORRIBLE until 220+ or so. Then they weren't so bad. After 220 I averaged 1 skill per 35 combines. Prior to that it was more like 50-80. We spent about a week making pre-combines and storing them on 8 mules and then powered up to 250 in 2 nights so it's not just a percieved difference. I know very well how often skillups were occuring in that short timespan.

And yes, do patty melts up to 191. They're oh so easy.

[Smartheart]

Thanks for all your inputs. Plus I read some other posts.

I guess it seems like hitting 175 greatly slows down skill-ups.

[eniamn]

um the skill up slump is rumored to be from 190 to 220. try halas meat pies instead to get to 226 and another similar toon on mtps to check.

[eqNichola]

What you are doing wrong is using those precious Pixie Dusts, Cinnamon Sticks, and Hero Parts (!) before you absolutely have to. Not only is the general rule to attempt the items closest to your current skill, the general rule is also to attempt recipes with EASY to get items before the recipes with HARD to get items.

Thus you should be doing nothing at all apart from patty melts - All ingredients store bought (except the reusable utensil) - until they trivial at 191.

Then, if you like farming pixies, by all means do pixie powdered cinnesticks to 202.

And *then* maybe think about using those 'stacks and stacks' (/faint) of Hero Parts

[Smartheart]

Thanks for all input from this newb baker. Will follow your suggestions. I only used half my stacks of hero Parts so I still have 8 stacks left.

I appreciate all your time and input.

[Phabos]

8 stacks of Hero Parts...

*does some quick math*

Let's see, at max skill level and assuming no failures on subcombines...

1 stack of parts = 1 stack of sandwiches...

8 stacks * 20 sandwiches * 80% success (my average) = 128 sandwiches total

128 * 90pp each= 11,520pp total sales


Now, I don't know about you, but I think I would save my Hero Parts until I was at 240 + Geerlok...


Phabos Aphsion
Drunken Paladin of Brell
Tarew Marr
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[Quichon]

If I may make a suggestion?

If you like farming, try going after Basilisks for eggs. One basislisk egg plus one cup of flour plus one water flask equals two noodles. One noodle plus one jug of sauces plus one spices equals one pasta. Also trivs at 191, don't have to have nonstick frying pan, don't need cheese.

[Kalysto]

I have another suggestion also for after you are done with Patty Melts. Depending on your flags and such, can take a little time to fish in Storms or Water which will take you to 222. Just is an option if you want to be somewhere you could be getting exp at same time as well. I have been saving my Hero Parts ( well over 20 stacks worth ) for when I get past here *at least*.