When to make trophy?

[Kinadorm]

First, do you have to do each of the different tasks for each level of the trophy or do you only do one trophy task and then the trophy continues to evolve to each progressive level without doing anymore tasks?

Based on the first question I can probably decide but I am currently at 200 skill and plan on working my way to 300 very soon. I have a swarm orb so I would be making the trophy mainly just to say I have it. Would I be better off making the level 200 trophy and evolving it as I work the skill up to 300 or should I wait and get to 300 skill first and then just do the 300 level task?

[Queletan]

You make one trophy and then it evolves with your skill as you progress higher in the tradeskill... ex, I made my Spell Research trophy when I was at ~240 (it was after the change so it came with an 80% exp level). About 4 combines after I reached 250, it evolved to the Expert level (250) trophy. At the moment I am a bit ahead of it (280 vs I think ~50% evolved).. but once I get to 300 it will follow me shortly after.

As far as your second question goes, that is up to you.. I would suggest looking at what is required for each trophy, some levels have an annoying item (my gnome tailor needed a raw-hide? gorget that was mob dropped only and I didn't feel like finding so I am waiting till the next level. At the same time, all skills except Spell Research require a Grandmaster Trophy as part of their quest for both 250 and 300 level, so consider that when you make your decision.

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[tatanka7th]

I have done a few trophies now (different disciplines), and I am a BIG fan of doing them before 250, so that no old GM trophy is needed. Unless you already have the old GM trophy, in which case it really doesn't matter

Tat

[Srig Dawichdocta]

Make trophy as soon as possible

In my experience with the trophies, it is better to complete them at the earliest skill possible. The Beginner trophy tasks are much easier and cheaper to complete. I have completed several trophies on a few different characters and have found that they evolve much easier at lower levels. Both the Alchemy Trophy and the Pottery Trophy evolved well before my skill reach the next range (Level35 Froglok Shaman ~ Alchemy 204 + Journeyman Alchemist Trophy, Pottery 124 + Freshman Potter Trophy)...for instance the Beginner trophy evolved to Apprentice by the time my skill had reach the mid 80s. This was the case on all the lower level trophies, however once you reach the Journeyman level and higher it requires much more experience to evolve.

BTW, I also found that the trophy recieved much more experience on combines that were successfull than on ones that failed.

[Twistagain]

BTW, I also found that the trophy recieved much more experience on combines that were successfull than on ones that failed.

The trophies ONLY receive experiece on successes...so yeah.

[nate111]

My tailor also needs that mob dropped rawhide gorget. I can not get it to drop off an orc. I have other pieces but not the gorget. So it's taken several weeks and I can't get past the first step. There is also a part that needs to be fished and combined with a rather high fishing skills, that part has 16 hours of playtime into it and am about 75 percent towards the fishing level required. You also got to be a potter and make a skinning knife. I got lucky on that part and made one on my third attempt at zero smithing skill.

I am thinking you should make your trophy after you hit the last level. The percentage increase from the trophy will make level up most expensive when it is equipped. My jeweler has to use the higher priced combines with the trophy equiped to achieve skillups. If I unequip the trophy, my costs go down. But leveling up with the trophy unequipped means it won't evolve. So unless you have a pressing need to reach an intermidate level in any tradeskill, it seems like it is best to delay doing the por tasks til you reach the last level range? Does that seem accurate or am i missing something there.

So in alchemy, I would have waited til I was past the expert level before doing the tasks to get the trophy. You do get some nice stat bonuses with the trophy though.

[Qaladar Bragollach]

My jeweler has to use the higher priced combines with the trophy equiped to achieve skillups. If I unequip the trophy, my costs go down.

This makes no sense.

Equipping a trophy has zero effect on what recipes you can use to skillup.

[Twistagain]

This makes no sense.

Equipping a trophy has zero effect on what recipes you can use to skillup.

I am assuming that he believes that if his modified skill is above the trivial that he cannot gain skillups...this is not true, of course. For instance, if your raw skill is 150 and your modified skill is 160, you can still get skillups on a trivial of 153.

[Rinikku]

Yep, yep, yep. And it is WAY easier to make something that is green than something that is blue/yellow/red. So I highly recommend keeping your trophy equipped and working on those combines that are green to your trophy but not to you. (FYI It will tell you if you can't gain experience from a recipe after you make it)

[Gorse]

My tailor also needs that mob dropped rawhide gorget. I can not get it to drop off an orc. I have other pieces but not the gorget. So it's taken several weeks and I can't get past the first step.

The drops are random, but there are many zones where it can drop. Find the spot with highest number of the lowest level that you can handle quickly and mass kill (wait for repops and kill again) until one drops.

There is also a part that needs to be fished and combined with a rather high fishing skills, that part has 16 hours of playtime into it and am about 75 percent towards the fishing level required.

Fortunately with fishing you can get the parts at any skill level, when I did the tailoring trophy for my mage, I had no fishing skill. I did manage to get to 22 skill by the time I finished fishing two of each of the items required (in case I had failures). Successes on other tradeskills are tied to WIS or INT, it may also be tied to fishing. With 390 INT, I had no problems, it could take a little longer with lower stats. You could also check the bazaar, or ask a friend with higher fishing skill to help out.

You also got to be a potter and make a skinning knife. I got lucky on that part and made one on my third attempt at zero smithing skill.

You do not have to be a potter or a smith, but if you don't want to pay another player for them you will need to make them yourself. This is the same with many tradeskills, where another skills is required. Smithing requires brewing for a lot of he tempers and an enchanter or a jeweler to make parts for combines, it's part of the game.

I am thinking you should make your trophy after you hit the last level. The percentage increase from the trophy will make level up most expensive when it is equipped. My jeweler has to use the higher priced combines with the trophy equiped to achieve skillups. If I unequip the trophy, my costs go down. But leveling up with the trophy unequipped means it won't evolve. So unless you have a pressing need to reach an intermidate level in any tradeskill, it seems like it is best to delay doing the por tasks til you reach the last level range? Does that seem accurate or am i missing something there.

As the previous post was explaining, the game mechanics looks at your raw skill when checking for skill ups, not your modified skill. The same concept (the raw skill is checked) is applied when performing successful combines to evolve your trophy (if your raw skill is below 300 the successful combine must be 1 to 100 points above your raw skill, if your raw skill is at 300, any successful, non-trivial combine will count towards evolving your trophy.

So in alchemy, I would have waited til I was past the expert level before doing the tasks to get the trophy. You do get some nice stat bonuses with the trophy though.

In my experience the earlier you get the trophy the better, the trophy will evolve as you skill up. If your skill ups come fast and your trophy has a long way to go to evolve, you could always destroy your current trophy (since you cannot get the same task while you have the trophy) get the task and complete the task to get a new trophy. The certificate with the new trophy will allow it to evolve up to your current level.



Gorse

[nate111]

Yes, I was thinking if it was green in the recipe window then you couldn't gain any skillups with those recipes. I was just looking for what is light blue and then doing those. Took my jeweler from 255 to 287 that way. This means I can save some diamonds still. lol

[Bobaten]

I got the beginner task for tailoring shortly after hitting 50 skill. By the time I found a raw-hide gorget (on a vendor in S Ro) I was at around 160 skill. The trophy evolved twice before I got 2 skill ups, and it passed me when I was at 198.
As far as the fishing goes, the hard part isn't catching the fish, it is the 135 trivial combine in a tacklebox to make the fish eggs, so yes, you either need to skill up or find someone to do it for you.