Trophy Question

[Rinikku]

So I'm not sure if this is just a rumor or not but I figured I would ask to see if anyone knows.

I heard that after you equip your trophy it takes a certain amount of time before the trophy will begin to level up with combines.

Is there any truth to this statement? If so, how long before one will get skill ups on the trophy?

I usually have my trophy equipped in my range slot; however, I unequip it to cast my mount periodically.

Any help would be appreciated

[Gorse]

So I'm not sure if this is just a rumor or not but I figured I would ask to see if anyone knows.

I heard that after you equip your trophy it takes a certain amount of time before the trophy will begin to level up with combines.

Is there any truth to this statement? If so, how long before one will get skill ups on the trophy?

I usually have my trophy equipped in my range slot; however, I unequip it to cast my mount periodically.

Any help would be appreciated

Certain amount of time: If your trophy is on the same tier as your skill, the trophy will evolve as you successfuly complete non-trivial combines within 100 points of your current skill. The number of combines per % evolution varies based on trade skill and challenge of the combine. a good reference number to use is 10 combines or less per % (if on the same tier level).

See above.

You have to have the trophy equiped, but it can be in the Primary, Secondary, Ranged or Ammo slot. If it is equiped in one of those 4 places and you meet the criteria above, the trophy will evolve.

Equiping and unequiping the trophy does not change, effect or reset any aspect of the trophy.

Other info:
If your trade skill trophy evolves to the next tier, (say to 6/7 and you are still at 295 skill) then it will not start evolving again until you reach skill level 300. The skill tiers are

50-99 = 1/7
100-149 = 2/7
150-199 = 3/7
200-249 = 4/7
250-299 = 5/7
300 = 6/7

Once you are at skill level 300 and the trophy is at 6/7, the trophy will continue to evolve to 7/7. Once at 7/7 it will no raise from 0%.

It can take 400 to 1000+ combines to skill up from 6/7 to 7/7, based on the trophy type and the dificulty of the combines being completed.

If you skill up faster than your trophy the evolving process goes faster. If your trophy is one tier lower, it evolves at 11x the rate, if two tiers 21x the rate and tree tiers 31x the rate. So do not worry, it will catch up fast.

If you do not have the trophy equiped (as noted above) it cannot / will not evolve.



I think that covers most of it, ask if something was missed.




Gorse

[Rinikku]

Wow, that was a lot of information. But you did answer my question which is that there is no waiting time after you equip the trophy. I pretty much figured this but thought I would ask in case I missed something

[Laspeera]

There's no waiting before you start clicking. Put it on and away you go

[Ngreth Thergn]

there **may** be a 30 second delay you need to do (I think this was to prevent people using normal evolving items that get exp from swapping mid fight or something like that)

BUT since I am using a hack to give them EXP instead of them getting exp the normal way, I think the hack tramples right over the "wait 30 seconds" normal limit on evolving items.

so to be 100% safe, you can wait 30 seconds. But I do believe it is not necessary. In my testing I did not see a delay, but my testing was also in GM mode (and had to be to get some extra information) so I may already trump the 30 second by being in GM mode.

[Wyora]

Omg, Ngreth admits to hacking!

[Rinikku]

Hehe. Well, I think he would have to to be good at his job

Thanks for the info. I don't believe I have seen any delay either, but I think I might just wait 30 seconds if I remember next time

[Ngreth Thergn]

And re-reading my post I could see there might be some small confusion.

the 30 second delay is just when equipping the item or changing slots that it is in. Not between chances of getting exp. All evolving items can gain exp as fast as you can pump exp into them.

I do believe the 30 second thing is null for the trophies anyway (it is just not easily testable by me to give you a 100% answer)

[Rinikku]

Haha, that would be horrible if we had to wait 30 seconds between combines. I didn't read it that way But I could see it being misunderstood.

My trophy would never have leveled up if I had had to wait between combines (which it went pretty fast from 5 to 6 )

Thanks for the info Ngreth.

[Jadish]

Artisan Seal

So just because I can be thick headed. It you got your trophy before or at level 4 then there is no reason to go through to old mark and artisan seal and craft this item thing from before, correct?

[Gorse]

So just because I can be thick headed. It you got your trophy before or at level 4 then there is no reason to go through to old mark and artisan seal and craft this item thing from before, correct?

Hmm, I have tried rereading this several times and still an not certain what you are asking.

If you are asking, "Since I already have my PoR trophy, am I required to make the old trade skill trophy?" Then the answer is no, you are not required to make the old trophy.

Once you complete the PoR trophy, you do not have to do any other task associated with it. The current trophy will evolve as you meet the critieria.

If you find yourself in a position where your skill is much further ahead than your trophy (for example, you skill up to 300 and your trophy is still at 4/7), you may consider destroying the current trophy and redoing the quest. Upon completion of the test, your score card will give you a 1/7 trophy and a certificate. When you equip the trophy and combine the certificate, the trophy will evolve to 6/7. You consider doing this only if it is better / easier / cheaper (your choice) in your mind, than doing the skill up of the trophy.

It should also be noted that 4/7 trophy in this example will skill up quickly. The rate is 21 times as fast to get to 5/7 and 11 times as fast to get to 6/7. The rate though is also based on your skill verses the skill level of the combine and the type if tradeskill (in this case alchemy). But in general, for this scenario it will be 80 to 120 successful non-trivial combines.


If you mean something else, try rewording the request again, because I didn't get it. =)




Gorse

[jinpo]

I didn't want to start a new thread to ask this question:

Regarding trophies...

What happens to those of use who left the game for a while (/points at himself) and already had 200 in a few skills? Are we out of luck?

I mean, I'd rather a GM de-level my baking, brewing and pottery and research back to zero so my trophy would skill up with me. It's like everyone who skilled up earlier got screwed on this - you know back before the combine was a one button click.

[KyrosKrane]

Not at all. If you already have a high-ish skill (50 or higher, up to 300), you get a task that challenges you -- you make stuff closer to your skill level. Your reward is the basic trophy, plus a certificate that levels it up to match your skill. So basically, you'll always get your proper reward for your skill level.

[mewkus]

I usually have my trophy equipped in my range slot; however, I unequip it to cast my mount periodically.

I keep my bridle/drum in my ammo slot and can cast it from there. If you don't already have something in your ammo slot, you might want to consider putting it there, that way, you can leave the trophy in your range slot.

[Rinikku]

Opps I meant ammo slot when I said range before. I rotate the drum and the trophy in and out of the ammo slot to cast my mount. I have a festive doll in the range slot. It seems to get me better stats than just leaving the drum on since it doesn't have any modifiers/stats.