Evolving Trophy?

[Uzadon]

Ok so I have a 258 regular skill, expert trophy (8 percent mod), so new skill is 278. My trophy was at 0 percent this morning.

I just did 60 attempts at Healing Potion X (trivial at 348 iirc)

60 attempts
40 successes

4% evolved trophy

now I had heard that it was gonna take 1000 combines, so if I do 60 attempts / 1000, I get 6 percent, not 4. Do you only get evolved exp if its a success? Thats what appears to be happening since 40/1000 = 4 percent. When I was at 39 success combines I looked at trophy and it was at 3, then the next successful combine put me at 4.

Is this working as intended? Only getting exp on successful combines? =/

Thanks
Uzadon

[maxpower]

if you fail to kill a mob, do you gain experience? no. why would one get experience if they fail the combine? its the same concept. you only gain experience when you are successful.

[Uzadon]

Its kind of not the same comparison. It would be like if I killed a mob, I would have to random and if I got above a certain number I would get exp for the mob. When I kill a mob its dead, I get exp. When I buy or farm all the items for the potion, and hit combine, Its exactly the same thing as when I fail except the RNG decided.

Since you can get a skillup on a failure combine (albiet the chance is a little lower), I dont see why you shouldn't get evolving exp on a failure as well.

[maxpower]

trophies are not based on skill up points. they are experience based. experience is only gained by successfully doing things. thus my comparison to killing a mob is the same.

[Uzadon]

bleh, my point was saying that killing a mob successfully is determined by skill/tactics, doing a successful combine is luck, not really the same in my book. You can't come up with a sweet tactic to hit the combine button.

[Rinikku]

My trophy has been leveling up quicker than me

I got it when I was 270, it was 40%.

I'm now at 276, it is at 71%.

Is this weird that it is going to beat me to master level?

Not that I'm complaining or anything, but I definitely think it is weird.

[deria]

Question: Do you get more "exp" for suceeding at a more difficult combine than you would get for succeeding at a combine just above your trivial?

On the subject of evolving on failed combines, I think that logically it should still evolve (but perhaps not as much). If I am cooking a steak, and I burn it because I leave it in the pan too long, I know what not to do next time. I am, in a word, a more experienced cook. Now as to whether or not we can reasonable expect the game to meet up with logic... thats an open question. On the same subject, a goblin should aways drop goblin blood (whether its hearty or not)... but it doesnt.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Question: Do you get more "exp" for suceeding at a more difficult combine than you would get for succeeding at a combine just above your trivial?

On the subject of evolving on failed combines, I think that logically it should still evolve (but perhaps not as much). If I am cooking a steak, and I burn it because I leave it in the pan too long, I know what not to do next time. I am, in a word, a more experienced cook. Now as to whether or not we can reasonable expect the game to meet up with logic... thats an open question. On the same subject, a goblin should aways drop goblin blood (whether its hearty or not)... but it doesnt.

But the "item" is not a person. It does not "learn" as well as a person does. It only learns under very narrow conditions. It only learns from "positive" reinforcement, not negative if you want to put it in even near "human" terms.

[Rinikku]

So yeah, I was right. My trophy beat me to master level. It is now a Master Alchemist Trophy, while I am still at level 282, expert alchemist. Although, I don't think the trophy is skilling up anymore. Seems like it is waiting on me to get Master level.

I seem to be skilling up very, very slowly even though my success rate is very good (95%). Now I know that there is only about 4% chance of skilling up, but I think that I am getting less than 1% skill up rate considering what happened with my trophy.

Any ideas on how to get my level going again? I'm making Distillate of Celestial Healing X (Trival 348) to skill up.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.